Crime & Punishment

This affects more people than suicide gankers.

I personally know that I many times have traveled through nullsec and given persuit to people and/or been in gang with an outlaw.

When the persuit leaves nullsec and continues to low, most of the times it ends with me having to GCC to either not let my target get away, or to assisst an outlaw friend that gets engaged.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with a sec hit for doing so, but having the entire gang split up and individually grind their sec status back above -2 is kind of a design flaw imo since it counteracts teamwork.

I'm not a die hard pirate, but I don't back out from a fight in low sec if there is one to be had. But at the end of the day I like to be able to move freely in empire.


Now the old system I can agree on being stupid, but they could have implemented it in a much better way that still gave you a reason to work as a group. For example 2 guys splitting a rat could get 60% each of the ammount one would get solo, 3 guys 40% each etc. This way you still don't get the full ammount, but still have an incentive to work together.

And lastly, as a lot of people in this thread, I think it's really bad that no documentation of this change exists.

In light of the new reported pop-up stealth nerf....looks like I called it before it happened.

They can't be bothered to streamline the interface for us in a common sense way, but they WILL go out of their way to exploit their own clunky interface and server-client lag to make things worse for us. Way to go, CCP.

Guess its time to kill another several dozen miners and hopefully make some of them quit the game in frustration.

Its also pretty insulting that they will fill patchnote lists up with the tiniest of details....
"Stupid typo in obscure mission X fixed"
"Random "Y" function should be slightly faster and less laggy"

But changes that can affect an entire playstyle are mysteriously left out of the notes.
A note for changing a pop-up default is one thing (not nearly as important as fixing a typo) - but FORBIDDING the boarding of a ship while GCC'd in a 'sandbox' game is a fairly major game mechanic change and worthy of advance notice.

-Workarounds for GCC ship boarding nerf:

Have a throwaway alt in system.
Gank 150km away from Concord.
When ganking with Tornados - don't die in the belt, warp to SS with Orca and unfit mods.
Don't be Smodab Ongelot, as his techinques have now been specifically nerfed twice.

-Workaround for popup
Hit Tab-Enter, instead of Enter - new fastest way to clear warning? haven't had a chance to try it yet.

Arguably this isn't an issue for run-of-the-mill gankers who kill a single target, but when you are chain killing Exhumers while under a very tight schedule - having to fight the interface and lag instead of focusing on targeting and shooting is undesirable.

You do know that if you unsub those alts before the CSM election results are talied, any votes you made with them won't count.

Very well said, it is pretty sad. I understand that CCP wants to draw in players, but let DUST do that. They continually make moves which seems to benefit the new player experience which is fine to a degree. They have this strange obsession with nerfing griefing and pirating instead of addressing the real problem: new player content stinks. To make money and be relevant most new players run missions. Problem is...You are running the same damn loop of missions constantly with no real content or challenge. It's boring as hell, I know so many people that were turned off because of that. I am sure folks leave due to hi-sec griefing/piracy, but that always draws so many of us in. Tighten up CCP!!!

What cowardice is this Darius?!?! Go and pod as many jita dwellers with ur alt accounts as possible!

Piracy is about making ISK.. Pirates whom want to make ISK will go where the ISK is.

As far as the OP's topic, I didn't notice when he said this change took place, but I was just out in null the night b4 this latest patch cleaning up my sec status on 2 chars. I tag teamed them in bombers as I always do and both received their gains. There does seem to be a bug from time to time when one char doesn't gain sec status, but it seems to be only every so often.

Dear CCP:

If you don't want my pirate character to be in the game, please just ban the account now so I'm never tempted to spend money on your game ever again.

I was actually aiming to get my sec on that character back up again, and it's boring as hell. Doing it with my roommate made it tolerable.

Doing it alone is just going to be frustrating, and most likely, I'll just say "**** it" and just not subscribe anymore.

This will be the second time I've quit over stupid changes you have made. It will also be the last.

I'll give it a few weeks to see if this gets fixed with a hotfix. If not, then to hell with this game.

No, you can't have my stuff. I'll just trash the characters.

Look at my sec status and killboard and ask yourself if this change affects me. Now that you realize how wrong you are, ask yourself why I'm not crying about it like the rest of these "pirates". I'll help you out, its because they're a bunch of sissies.

The fact that it doesn't affect you only shows that you've no legitimate authority to criticise those whom it does affect, because we/they have any number of reasons to want to maintain full access to all empire-space, and don't want to spend days grinding in East Buttholia, zerosec to get the sec back up to do so.

And it's not humanly possible for me to care less about your ******* killboard and still remain alive, sorry:

Looking at other men's peenzors just isn't my thing.

Next!

Are you seriously that stupid? The purpose of looking at my killboard is to see all the hulks I like to gank, and how much work its going to take to fix my sec status when the time comes. This change directly affects me.

Also, calling me out about having any authority on the subject from a character with 1 kill and 2 losses in the last year and a half just makes you look like an idiot, or a coward posting from an alt. I've had to fix my sec status up numerous times. Its a consequence of breaking the law in EvE. I took my punishment like a man, did what I had to do, and got back to empire. Considering you've likely never left high sec, I don't think you can grasp the concept at all.