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at 20 mil sp you will lose you way: eve dies
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JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#21 - 2012-03-12 10:03:40 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Double.. Grrr
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#22 - 2012-03-12 10:05:27 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Yeah 20mil sp really isn't that much in all honesty.... So you have tons left to do so there is not much to worry about. :)

EDIT:
Then again, you wont like the costs involved in the 90+ mil clones.
Jose Black
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-03-12 10:31:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jose Black
Haulin Gneiss wrote:
Lvl 4s. mastered
You could try running them in groups, for example helping people that did not yet master them. Or you could try running them using cruisers or assault frigates. You're asking why you would want to do that? For fun of course. It's a game after all and thats why fun has to be your first priority.

Haulin Gneiss wrote:
Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators.
Why not choose to be a less overbearing CEO yourself then?

Haulin Gneiss wrote:
Can fly most ships under carrier. check.
As mentioned multiple times above: you can board them, but actual efficient flying is another story.

Haulin Gneiss wrote:
SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys.
It's a sandbox. You have to built your castles yourself. Be creative. Myself I'd hate if they added features and toys every other week.

Edit: Confirming for my 80+ million SP char EVE died 4 times already. He has 7 lives though and that's why the story goes on.
Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-03-12 10:37:30 UTC
Garmon wrote:
What makes eve different to other MMOs is that there's so many different possibilities for your end game, it's only limited by your determination

By the sounds of things

1. You've lived in highsec all your life, got bored
2. Joined a random 0.0 alliance and didn't like the serious business structure that they had

For 1, I think the main purpose highsec has is just to get you used to the game, apart from casual players, a lot of people get tired of highsec eventually, but like I said highsec is great for casual players that just wants to relax after getting home from work

And for 2, I understand where you're coming from with this because it's just a game, but for people in nullsec alliances, it's more than just a game, they've worked hard and for years for what they have achieved, it's considered acceptable for them to take things very seriously for these reasons

What I'd suggest is, focus on making friends if you haven't already, get your self and your friends excited about the prospect about pvping in low sec / 0.0, maybe even form your own corp with them, and have fun! You could also try some solo pvp out, if you can afford it, learning through pvping in assault frigates will teach you a lot, the ships them selves are very strong now too since crucible 1.1, if you can't afford it, flying frigates will teach you the same lessons

There's quite a few options available for you, small AF gangs, t1 cruiser gangs

All it takes is some effort, initiative, and most of all, determination, and you're golden

Edit : If you tell me where you're specialized in, I could give a few ideas on what you could fly


Garmon is right on this one :)

PvP and friends is what makes eve great for long term players like me

also lol at OP for saying he can fly everything under carriers :P im at 104mil sp now, and I can finally fly "almost" everything (still dont have black ops 5 or marauders 5, im saving those for last lol)

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#25 - 2012-03-12 10:39:33 UTC
Go, now.

This game clearly isn't for you since you seem to have no intention of making even the minimal effort required to find something interesting to do.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-03-12 10:39:54 UTC
People obvious troll is obvious.

Although 5/10 for responses he got.
Vaffel Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-03-12 10:44:58 UTC
Take years to be well skilled now... yes..
but...
What will the future of eve bring... ?
New chars start with 20m sp ?
No need to train skills longer than to lvl4. ?

Dumbification of EVE online has started.. Cool
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#28 - 2012-03-12 10:46:46 UTC
Bubanni wrote:

also lol at OP for saying he can fly everything under carriers :P im at 104mil sp now, and I can finally fly "almost" everything (still dont have black ops 5 or marauders 5, im saving those for last lol)


I have a strong feeling he might also only be trained into a single race, and not all ships of all races under cap.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#29 - 2012-03-12 11:00:20 UTC
I have over 60M SP, but I still can't fly half the sub-caps in the game. I'm half decent at logistics and EWAR, and I can do you a good deal on datacores. I can't believe that you've run out of things "worth training" at 20M SP.

Liang Nuren wrote:
Ed: Also, this should help you some: http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/


There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#30 - 2012-03-12 11:07:33 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ItTlNpBRXOA/TcjZWeareOI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cBLzMQJ0lKs/s1600/evefun1.png
This is worryingly accurate ¬¬
Nah. I'm at 80M SP, and I don't luvs my Nyx. P

n fact, to continue the trend of “I'm at X and I can't fly…”, I'm at 80M SP and I can just barely fly all sub-BS ships competently.

More specifically, I can fly all ships that don't require you to train a battleship skill (except the Rorqual) and fit all the pieces of equipment that could conceivably go on those ships. At 20M SP, I think I had just completed the full set of T2 cruisers for one race, and maybe the Orca as a topper.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#31 - 2012-03-12 11:18:03 UTC
Giving this one 8/10, for all the serious responses.

And on the off chance its for real, have a tourist guide: http://evetravel.wordpress.com/

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Lugaedh
Bluestar Enterprises
The Craftsmen
#32 - 2012-03-12 11:39:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugaedh
I beg your pardon.

20 million SPs and you say you can FLY most subcaps ships in eve?

Gunnery, engineering, mechanics are some 20 million alone.

And for subcap ships to FLY them all it is MORE then 20 million again.

So, to justify your funny claim, you should have proclaimed 40 or even 50 million SPs.

Have a nice day,
troll elsewhere
Luga
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-03-12 12:08:20 UTC
Ive just passed 60 mil (for the second time) and I still have a crapload of stuff I have yet to do. I have dabbled in everything but have yet to actually do a lot of it.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-03-12 12:10:30 UTC
45 million SP here

I can fly about 5 ships but i fly them like a boss.

I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#35 - 2012-03-12 12:16:57 UTC
5/10

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thecunning mrfox
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-03-12 12:25:57 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ItTlNpBRXOA/TcjZWeareOI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cBLzMQJ0lKs/s1600/evefun1.png



Brilliant +1 internet cookies to you good sir.
Ira Infernus
Knights-of-Cydonia
#37 - 2012-03-12 13:15:15 UTC
20mil SP and you can fly most racial ships under cap?

-I don't think so, unless you only skilled to like l3 on average.

at 20 mil SP I was only half way through mastering the amarr battleship and laser systems.

at 45 mil SP I am currently well (no where near perfectly) skilled for amarr and minmatar subcaps, including t2. My missile skills are severely lacking, and my drone skills dont extend beyond Hammer II's.


In short, your statement is about as false as it gets.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#38 - 2012-03-12 13:52:59 UTC
Haulin Gneiss wrote:
cosmos missions: 84% done
Lvl 4s. mastered
Exploration missions: done
Mining missions: done

Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators.

Can fly most ships under carrier. check.

SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys.

Now...insert forum hounds comments.



Only 20mil SP - are you one of the new Japanese guys?

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2012-03-12 13:55:54 UTC
Eve was never really about the PvE content. Its only there as a side-show and as a way to make money to fund PvP.

Eve is about the PvP.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Admiral Rufus
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#40 - 2012-03-12 14:09:21 UTC
Its taken you 3 years to get 20 mil sp? wtf have you been doing, you should have around 20-22mil within 12 months?!