EVE General Discussion

I kept a list of goods I normally trade from early Dec 2011. I haven't played since then until just now.

Prices across the board are up around 20%. By this rate, the price of everything will double in a year. Is CCP looking at ways of managing isk flow or should I start converting my ISK into "hard" assets like PLEX or trit?

When a currency spirals out of control then the prices will just keep rising for as long as the people distributing the currency can keep it up. Thankfully in real life economics, there are real rules that even a government can't break, so eventually what will happen is that the prices are going to reset and the currency if it is messed with even more will simply collapse and everyone will lose interest however.

What you're going to see in EVE is these massive price rises will continue for ages and ages because this isn't a realistic economy and CCP doesn't follow the same rules. Things will get a lot more expensive for mission runners etc. but will probably stay the same for industrials and we'll just have to build all our own stuff and use bartering instead of ISK to get by.

If you've got items etc. hold onto them now, I actually reckon PLEX selling will become pretty meaningless soon because the prices will get ridiculous that no one normal will want to buy it, personally I wish CCP would simulate a currency crash and switch to Aurum.

More like 30% for many of the ships I build. CCP need to turn turn the Incursion tap off before it's too late.

This pretty much

It's quite nostalgic to think about how hard it used to be to make a lot of isk, I'm sure CCP will address it some day, but I guess they're keeping to their priorities




30 Day gtc's used to cost 140m or so in 2008 too, pretty funny to think about

dust is gonna be the biggest isk sink ever

stock up on isk if possible :P

There's nothing wrong with Incursions. The option is there for anyone and everyone to go to an Incursion system and take part. Those who are moaning and bitching about it have some form of bad feeling towards it for no good reason.

Do we moan about all the Tech moons constantly like you guys do? nope...

Incursions is maybe the fastest way to make isk yes indeed but it is deserved because the majority of subs come from empire people. That is a fact.

If you continue to take away every isk making solution to high sec subs will fall drastically.

It may be in CCPs interest to change them around slightly as they do with everything [just look at PI] I cannot see it changing too much.

This just in: Andski outed as weirdo psychic.

Garak: learn how the economy works. Incursions contribute to inflation because they are a source of ISK injected out of nowhere (an ISK faucet). Moon do not contribute to inflation because they do no inject any ISK, but rather inject materials that other people spend money on (they're a materials faucet) — in fact, they counter inflation by balancing out the increased ISK by increasing the amount of stuff in the game.

Troof!

Myrmidons (to name just one item) are ca.ISK 48mn in Jita as of about 3 hours ago (just before I logged). They were ca. ISK 27-29mn just about 5-6 months ago.

CCP, you need to stop listening to the over-entitled whingebabies and just nerfbat Incursion-income, hard.

So the people hoarding in Zydrine in the hopes of a dronepoo change have absolutly nothing to do with this inflation.

Ow and there are plenty of traders who have more than enough Isk to haord a damn lot of Zydrine to influence the market substantially.

Next to that the DRF brings less Zydrine to the markets also because the possebility of dronepoo getting hit.

My only hope would be that CCP does NOT change drone drops for a while yet and keep the development and eventual change secret so that the markets can't be played like that anymore.
This would cost the specualtors a lot of Isk this time and make them rethink about doing it on such a wide scale again.

If CCP does change the drone drop in the next expansion as the rumors are spread then they just admit they themselves can't even hold off information which influence the game a lot and have jumped even more Isk into the hands of the entities which already own a large part of the cash ingame. (and which in my opinion are also ofcourse various CCP employees and their best buds)

And that's what happens. There are plenty of miners that are running incursions now because it's silly not to. You still spend hours in front if a simple game but the income is a lot better. It wont change until a hulk in highsec can outmine the average incursion runner. Thanks to the drone region (bots) high mins could drop in price to more or less even out the price increase in low mins so far.

When (or if) drone poo gets changed to ISK that counter wont work either. The economy will do what it's meant to do. Even out the income gap between incursion runners and highsec miners and mission runners that pick up loot. Expect ship prices to triple relative to where they where before Incursion.

The whining will be endless.