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Azemar
Voidhounds
Pretenders
#61 - 2012-03-10 04:09:10 UTC
Jason McCoy wrote:
no wonder OP was kicked. LOLzering.


This statement is accurate and has been made official
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2012-03-10 05:19:52 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
In a large 0.0 alliance it's not that hard at all to appear effective.
With all the massive blobs you join 1 or 2 and make yourself appear on the bloblist.
Your socalled effectivness will skyrocket enough to cover some losses due to ratting and being caught while doing so.

The whole "killboard efficiency" is a paper tiger.
Just join a support fleet for a caps op and get a hit on a few caps with cottonballs and BLAM your efficiency is all of a sudden off the scale.
A lot of people, if you check their killboard stats, aren't really as effective as they want themselves to look. So whereas an alliance looks at your overall efficiency you best ignore them if you look for real effectivness.



No member of the CFC, that I know of, cares about killboard efficiency. If the guy actually got kicked from TEST it was for being an insufferable human being.

Recruitment Channel scam efficiency, though, is a different matter.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#63 - 2012-03-10 07:04:23 UTC
Azemar wrote:
Kaela Grimm wrote:
" I recently left because my corporation did not approve of my PvE playstyle"
And
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Azemar#losses


That's your reason why. You're just someone that likes to sponge off your alliance's space and lower their kb efficiency . I don't think you can see the entry or who made it, but I imagine it was the last corp you were in that blacklisted you for the alliance because you contribute **** all.
There's nothing wrong with PVE'ing in null. That's one of the main reasons why people are out there (besides the gudfites) ; but if it's all you do and you don't do anything else to contribute to your alliance then you might as well be running missions in high sec by yourself.



I don't like doing any of those things. I am simply a PvE player who likes it in nullsec because that is where the best PvE in the game is. I have made mistakes along the way, so has everyone. KB efficiency? really? And how can a player be a detriment? Last i checked the tax makes any player who kills npc's is contributing.

All i want to do is be in null sec and PvE. Why is that asking so much?




You are doing it wrong.

Tell me, why do you think you need to be in some null corp/alliance to PVE there?

Probably because "that's the way it is".

Time to shed conventional thought or "consensus" (better known as "conditioning").

You want nullsec PVE?

Find a decent highsec system to base yourself out of .

Get a ship capable of scanning down wormholes.

Now don't be afraid....
(I know this scares a lot of people)

Go into a wormhole alone and stay there, overnight (a DT).

When in the WH, scan around - you might find a WH to another WH system, or not.

Eventually you will get to a nullsec system, and a good chance a really dead pocket too. So dead they won't even bother to send a patrol. Been in systems like that, didn't see another soul for weeks.

PVE till your hold is full or you are out of ammo.

Then use wormholes to get back to highsec.

Now you need patience. You can find a WH from high sec and within 10 minutes find a WH in the system to 0.0.

(yes, some systems will have a WH to high and 0.0 at the same time)

Sometimes the "crossing" could take a week.


You will get your PVE and not have to put up with the corp/alliance/KB ratio crap.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#64 - 2012-03-10 10:16:19 UTC
BoodaBooda wrote:
You should check it again


http://blacklist.pleaseignore.com/



Dear Mr BoodaBooda,


I clicked on your link and saw that Azemar is now listed as a 'huge pubbie ******'. However, I couldn't help but notice that as you, too, do not have a Goonswarm corp ticker, you are also a 'huge pubbie ******'. I might even go so far as to say that you are now merely a 'huge pubbie ****** pet'.

Thank you for your kind attention,


Mr Bumble, Esq.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#65 - 2012-03-10 10:28:01 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:

You can even do it by yourself, without being a carebear leech on the fruits of someone else's labours, risks, and efforts.

As much as I detest sov-null alliances and their grating EVE IS SRS FKN BZNS!!111!!oneone!! bullshit, your formner corp was absolutely right to kick you.

Did they give you time to get your stuff out? Be thankful if so, I certainly wouldn't have.

Didn't want those loots in that un-tanked paper-box industrial anyway, eh?





I feel compelled to point out that your post is so full of self-serving gratuitous bullshit that it just made my head explode. Congratulations.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Valei Khurelem
#66 - 2012-03-10 10:33:30 UTC
Quote:
You can even do it by yourself, without being a carebear leech on the fruits of someone else's labours, risks, and efforts.


Being an Industrial player, this statement is the biggest load of bullshit propaganda I've heard in awhile and I watch American politics. PvPers are the real leechers because they do nothing but lie, cheat, steal and destroy what other players create. If we removed PvP from the game you'd have market hubs in 0.0 space.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#67 - 2012-03-10 10:48:45 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Quote:
You can even do it by yourself, without being a carebear leech on the fruits of someone else's labours, risks, and efforts.


Being an Industrial player, this statement is the biggest load of bullshit propaganda I've heard in awhile and I watch American politics. PvPers are the real leechers because they do nothing but lie, cheat, steal and destroy what other players create. If we removed PvP from the game you'd have market hubs in 0.0 space.


Being a knowledgeable player, this statement is the biggest load of bullshit propaganda I've heard in awhile and I watch American politics. PvPers are the real heros because they do nothing but lie, cheat, steal and destroy what other players create. If we removed PvP from the game you'd also remove the demand for items. All industrial players would soon leave as no one bought their stuff.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#68 - 2012-03-10 11:32:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Bumblefck wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:

You can even do it by yourself, without being a carebear leech on the fruits of someone else's labours, risks, and efforts.

As much as I detest sov-null alliances and their grating EVE IS SRS FKN BZNS!!111!!oneone!! bullshit, your formner corp was absolutely right to kick you.

Did they give you time to get your stuff out? Be thankful if so, I certainly wouldn't have.

Didn't want those loots in that un-tanked paper-box industrial anyway, eh?





I feel compelled to point out that your post is so full of self-serving gratuitous bullshit that it just made my head explode. Congratulations.



'Kay, good! Maybe that'll shut you up, if nothing else will.Roll

E: I feel compelled to point out that your post is so full of...well, nothing, basically, that it just made me go, "meh, whatever."

Next!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#69 - 2012-03-10 11:40:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Valei Khurelem wrote:


Being an Industrial player, this statement is the biggest load of bullshit propaganda I've heard in awhile and I watch American politics. PvPers are the real leechers because they do nothing but lie, cheat, steal and destroy what other players create. If we removed PvP from the game you'd have market hubs in 0.0 space.


Well, your utterly myopic and typically sanctimonious victim-badge-waving carebear characterisation of PvP'ers doesn't stop you from making money off them, now does it.

So what does that make you, if you want to preserve the validity (soley to you, trust me on that one) of your worm's-eye-view hatred of PvPs?

Or do you think that it's NPC entities that buy the stuff you build? What do you think you're making your money from, anyway?

E: You should go read that thread I linked, as well, before you get on your pedestal of victimhood--who knows, you might find a whole new playstyle you like there.

E2:
Valei Khurelem wrote:
If we removed PvP from the game you'd have market hubs in 0.0 space.


^^ShockedShockedShockedShocked^^

Are.
You.
*******.
Serious.

I don't have enough hands to give that the multi-facepalm it deserves. Unless you are just trolling, in which case, 9.9999...9/10, well-played!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Im Super Gay
Investtan Inc.
The Republic.
#70 - 2012-03-10 12:54:10 UTC
Azemar wrote:
Jason McCoy wrote:
no wonder OP was kicked. LOLzering.


This statement is accurate and has been made official

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gfldex
#71 - 2012-03-10 13:07:50 UTC
Azemar wrote:
Really? You guys think i'm a spy?!?!


If you never shoot the enemy you are at least a collaborator.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Azemar
Voidhounds
Pretenders
#72 - 2012-03-10 14:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Azemar
quick question while we are letting steam off....how common are recruitment fees and can they be trusted? I'm guessing they are loads of bull
Untraceableone
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-03-10 16:16:23 UTC
Azemar wrote:
quick question while we are letting steam off....how common are recruitment fees and can they be trusted? I'm guessing they are loads of bull


If it's a nullsec corp, they're fairly common for ~security~ reasons.

If it's a wormhole corp, good luck getting in without one, there's even more security issues.

Otherwise, there shouldn't be one.
Cosmic Fart
Doomheim
#74 - 2012-03-10 17:43:11 UTC
Azemar wrote:
quick question while we are letting steam off....how common are recruitment fees and can they be trusted? I'm guessing they are loads of bull




Ever paid a recruitment fee in RL to a perspective employer? Most likely you are about to be scammed. Goons find this a favorite method of greifing players.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#75 - 2012-03-10 19:31:26 UTC
This thread deteriorated faster than a battery in salt water.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Lovelocke
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#76 - 2012-04-19 13:30:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Lovelocke
Well I'll be doing a slight necro on this as I've only just seen it. Apologies! I am this chaps old CEO. I thought I would clear a few things up.

First of all he wasn't blacklisted. At least, I didn't blacklist him. He didn't do anything in corp to warrant being blacklisted. There are two blacklist entries for him, one which was there before we recruited him which states he is a possible spy - something I doubt he is - and the last one is that he is a "huge pubbie swearword". Neither of these entries are from me and both are only advisory which means any corp in the CFC can still recruit him, just to be careful.

Now, why did I kick him? To put it simply he was kicked because he genuinely believed that his ratting taxes were a wholly legitimate contribution to the corp and that because he ratted 24/7 he was exempt from having to go on fleets. There are a few problems with this; first of all, we're in a SOV holding alliance and you don't get SOV by ratting all day - you have to fight for it. Secondly his attitude was directly against corp policy; we only recruit people who want to PvP. We don't have CTA's or minimum monthly kills or anything like that but we only recruit those who express an interest in PvP'ing. If in a recruitment interview the first question someone asks us is "have you got anywhere good to rat?" he will get instantly rejected.

It's not that we even go hardcore omgwtf y u no fleet and check each member each month to check they're PvP'ing, we sort of just go with the flow and appreciate not everyone can PvP all the time. It's when people bring themselves to our attention when we begin laying down the long arm of the law and in this case Azemar continually lost ratting ships and it was eventually noticed by people in the alliance. "Who is this j4g swearword?" they would ask me. Then in corp my corpies began questioning him, "y u use hyperion to rat lol" etc and it was his "my taxes pay my way" opinion openly shared in corp which earned him his kick.

Azemar, you need to join a renting corporation. I told you when I kicked you that bounty taxes are not considered a valid contribution and it's unlikely any SOV holding corp will let you in, especially now you've made this thread giving yourself a public... what's the opposite of decoration? Anyway, you belong in a renter corp. You join, pay your dues and you can be the allstar nullsec PvE'er you've always dreamed of becoming.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#77 - 2012-04-19 13:36:52 UTC
Azemar wrote:
I am a player in the fountain region and have been with the test alliance for a while. I recently left because my corporation did not approve of my PvE playstyle. However i reapplied to one of the loosest corporations they have (dreddit) with what i think to be very good credentials and prerequisites that fulfill all of their requirements. However in my application they said "it may or may not be due to a particular blacklist entry"

Where can i see the entry and know who created it and why? I have always been a pretty friendly guy and i cant think of any reason why i would get blacklisted.



There are NPC null sec regions for players like you. You don't stick to your ex-alliance requirements, like it or not it's their right to not want you in their ranks.

The reasons why are many other than bot like awax (very common these days) Blink
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#78 - 2012-04-19 13:46:05 UTC
Kaela Grimm wrote:
" I recently left because my corporation did not approve of my PvE playstyle"
And
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Azemar#losses


That's your reason why.

Holy ****.
Even I don't suk that much (and I pretty much suk - so that's saying something!)

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-04-19 14:04:54 UTC
This is a fine specimin of the kind of carebear who wants to take our favourite game away.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#80 - 2012-04-19 14:25:09 UTC
Even for you, that's a pretty extreme leap.

Strap in everyone, MNG is taking this thread to Cuba!

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