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New (now old) Dust 514 Interview video
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Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#21 - 2012-03-09 16:04:34 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
I had high hopes for dust but if these ******* Health bars stay in and screw over ever stealth/sniper out there its not worth the money.



and DONT you even think about showing name plates when you look at someone that's further than 5m away from you.


You ain't paying ****.

Adapt or Die
Logan LaMort
Screaming Hayabusa
#22 - 2012-03-09 16:09:24 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
I had high hopes for dust but if these ******* Health bars stay in and screw over ever stealth/sniper out there its not worth the money.



and DONT you even think about showing name plates when you look at someone that's further than 5m away from you.


That's what cloaking devices are for. In fact as a sniper you'll be able to gauge exactly how much HP your enemy has left which is an advantage.

Then there's all manner of ECM modules.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#23 - 2012-03-09 16:55:29 UTC
Those health bars are in dev mode only. If you look at other footage available there isnt any bars at all.

This is alpha there are things turned on for the sake of trouble shoooting (would suck if you brought in a gun and the play back shows that under all cirumstances should have hit but didnt for some reason)

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#24 - 2012-03-09 16:56:02 UTC
Grideris wrote:
Ciar Meara wrote:
Patient 2428190 wrote:
What terrible sound design.


I'd assumed that those sounds where only templates since it is still in production.


What he said.

you mean like eve?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#25 - 2012-03-09 16:56:43 UTC
also like to add that aim down sights seems to be based on the guns camera not the old iron sites.

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Mirima Thurander
#26 - 2012-03-09 16:57:56 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
Grideris wrote:
Ciar Meara wrote:
Patient 2428190 wrote:
What terrible sound design.


I'd assumed that those sounds where only templates since it is still in production.


What he said.

you mean like eve?




sound in my eve? GTFO NOW

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Mirima Thurander
#27 - 2012-03-09 17:00:03 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
also like to add that aim down sights seems to be based on the guns camera not the old iron sites.



camera drones for are guns ? WUT?

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#28 - 2012-03-09 17:11:53 UTC
Whether or not it's on PC
Whether or not I play it

I just think the concept is awesome and that being on either side of this interaction going to be great =D

The Drake is a Lie
Danel Tosh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-03-09 17:18:03 UTC
I dont know why you guys are upset about the health bars. to me its a homage to EVE online where you see a very simular health bar on targeted ships. it may look weird for a modern shooter, but this is still EvE and we should embrace that.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#30 - 2012-03-09 17:21:08 UTC
I think those health bars are test server only things.

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Valei Khurelem
#31 - 2012-03-09 17:35:59 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
I think those health bars are test server only things.


First rule of waiting for a new game, never jump to hopeful conclusions :P

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#32 - 2012-03-09 17:41:56 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
I think those health bars are test server only things.


First rule of waiting for a new game, never jump to hopeful conclusions :P

Nah, I think Novas right, I've only ever seen them twice, this video - which has been confirmed as old footage, and the first demo from fanfest 2009.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#33 - 2012-03-09 17:47:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Now vehicles having Health Bar readouts on things they lock would make sense but there was 1 only 1 vehicle shot in the entire clip.

I for one would probably be flying the covert ops drop ship.

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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-03-09 18:15:04 UTC
Health bars also add to the issue of hiding...and helping your enemy determine a target from further out.

What's that? Oh look a giant bunch of red floating letters... I think i'll shoot at it now... Oh how funny thinks he's hiding behind that rock but those letters, and health bars tell us otherwise... I think I just throw a grenade.

Granted only worth noting if this is in fact true.
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-03-09 18:59:00 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
Grideris wrote:
Ciar Meara wrote:
Patient 2428190 wrote:
What terrible sound design.


I'd assumed that those sounds where only templates since it is still in production.


What he said.

you mean like eve?




sound in my eve? GTFO NOW

Since when did EvE have sound? I bet your lying, just like those people who tried to start the terrible rumor that there was WIS in EvE.
Kale Kold
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-03-09 19:07:08 UTC
WOW! The graphics look dire! Shocked

Dust = Fail!

“Some people call me insane for the destruction I’ve caused, ...I believe I was just doing my duty!” -- Testimony submitted to Caldari Navy war crimes tribunal.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#37 - 2012-03-09 19:49:47 UTC
I thought had more to do with people trying to use a camera to watch the video than a direct feed.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-03-09 20:16:19 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
also like to add that aim down sights seems to be based on the guns camera not the old iron sites.

I think you are right...I hope you are right. What has always annoyed me about FPS games is that you can clip through walls and crap because the bullests emanate from what you can see instead of what the gun can see.

I also hope you are right about the health bars. It makes sense...you are likely right on that one.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-03-09 20:17:14 UTC
Kale Kold wrote:
WOW! The graphics look dire! Shocked

Dust = Fail!

Dude...its called Alpha testing. You never play the game with full release graphics while alpha testing.

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Marlakh
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-03-09 22:43:53 UTC
Thanks for posting this vid.

Also, pretty comprehensive analysis in dust514base