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Sorry Since when did vote csm scamming become part of eve
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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-07 21:28:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr R4nd0m
Scamming in game (although i think it ruins the game) is all fine and dandy. But to scam votes (ppl like darius, and im sure ppl like mittani etc do it too) is going a bit too far. Surely CCP you dont allow this too? Making a mockery of the an already flawed system.
CCP ffs start putting some rules around this. Jeez its probably the most abused, corrupt, dodgy and manipulative voting system i have ever seen,
Having to scam your way onto the CSM? Really?
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#2 - 2012-03-07 21:37:48 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Scamming in game (although i think it ruins the game) is all fine and dandy. But to scam votes (ppl like darius, and im sure ppl like mittani etc do it too) is going a bit too far. Surely CCP you dont allow this too? Making a mockery of the an already flawed system.
CCP ffs start putting some rules around this. Jeez its probably the most abused, corrupt, dodgy and manipulative voting system i have ever seen,
Having to scam your way onto the CSM? Really?

EvE is a dodgy, corrupt, and abusive place. Par for the course is what it is. Since when did *.* scamming become part of EvE? Since ever.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-03-07 21:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Why not ? O_o

Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed,
even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.


You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them.
People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#4 - 2012-03-07 21:38:57 UTC
Hey look, another thread on the subject matter

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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-03-07 21:41:04 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Why not ? O_o

Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed,
even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.


You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them.
People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves.


So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...
Sidrat Flush
KarmaFleet
#6 - 2012-03-07 21:43:57 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Why not ? O_o

Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed,
even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.


You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them.
People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves.


So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...


It does mean that they were elected by silly people believing hollow promises.

Sound familiar much?

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
Valei Khurelem
#7 - 2012-03-07 21:44:29 UTC
CSM is a classic example of taking a game too damn seriously that's why I won't even bother voting.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-03-07 21:45:14 UTC
this game really is becoming a sesspit
Jess Tiki
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#9 - 2012-03-07 21:45:57 UTC
Scamming your way in sounds like earning it the hard way.

It also sounds like pretty good reasons why scammers should vote for him. One of their own.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#10 - 2012-03-07 21:53:15 UTC
I take far greater exception to the mail-spamming Trebor is doing, what a jerk.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-03-07 21:55:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Why not ? O_o

Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed,
even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.


You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them.
People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves.


So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...


Yes.
This is actually pretty much how it works in real life too.
Different scam, same outcome.

The rules of EvE make it perfectly fine to scam for votes.
Are you able to give an actual reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed ?
A real reason. Not "it's unacceptable". That's no reason, that's just your opinion.

Don't ignore the fact that it's still the people in CCP who have the last say anyway,
so even if the greatest idiot of all time would be in CSM, it probably wouldn't make a difference.
(there's a pun and an insult in there ... maybe you can spot it. :)
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-03-07 21:55:51 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
I take far greater exception to the mail-spamming Trebor is doing, what a jerk.


Agreed.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-03-07 21:57:25 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
CSM is a classic example of taking a game too damn seriously that's why I won't even bother voting.


Says the guy who keeps on ranting about people in a video game.

Funny.


Edit: I could have actually put these three posts into one ... my bad.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#14 - 2012-03-07 21:58:57 UTC
Scamming in game and of in game assets is allowed.

The CSM is arguably part of the game, and hence the votes are just another asset that Darius is scamming us out of.


Didn't matter for me though, I went with someone whose history I knew, and trusted a little more than I can shoot them.
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-03-07 21:59:21 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Why not ? O_o

Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed,
even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.


You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them.
People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves.


So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...


Yes.
This is actually pretty much how it works in real life too.
Different scam, same outcome.

The rules of EvE make it perfectly fine to scam for votes.
Are you able to give an actual reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed ?
A real reason. Not "it's unacceptable". That's no reason, that's just your opinion.



Sorry it works in real life too? What? Does it? I think i would like to know which country and electoral system you come from
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#16 - 2012-03-07 22:02:00 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Why not ? O_o

Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed,
even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.


You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them.
People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves.


So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...


Yes.
This is actually pretty much how it works in real life too.
Different scam, same outcome.

The rules of EvE make it perfectly fine to scam for votes.
Are you able to give an actual reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed ?
A real reason. Not "it's unacceptable". That's no reason, that's just your opinion.



Sorry it works in real life too? What? Does it? I think i would like to know which country and electoral system you come from


Well I did hear this big thing about Change! though I seem to have ended up with 4 more years of the same......

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-03-07 22:02:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr R4nd0m
Corina Jarr wrote:
Scamming in game and of in game assets is allowed.

The CSM is arguably part of the game, and hence the votes are just another asset that Darius is scamming us out of.


Didn't matter for me though, I went with someone whose history I knew, and trusted a little more than I can shoot them.


No no no, im sorry but i cant agree with this. Scamming your way onto the CSM is not on, sorry but its not.. It just makes a mockery of the whole thing...

So you are saying, a person who has scammed their way onto the CSM, without legit votes from players that feel they actually represent them, and could potentially have an impact on how eve evolves, which in turns effects your gameplay, which YOU PAY for, is ok?

Im sorry but when i am paying a monthly sub, i dont appreciate some scamming mofo effecting my gameplay OVERALL.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-03-07 22:08:11 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Sorry it works in real life too? What? Does it? I think i would like to know which country and electoral system you come from


Yes, it does.
It doesn't wonder me that you're not realizing it, though.

Never wondered why politicians need others to write their speeches ?
Never heard of Neurolinguistic programming ?

Never realized that politicians are quite picky about what they are saying
and that they often actually say nothing, although they use plenty of words ?

Never ever heard a politician lie ?

Never noticed that politicians give goodies before the next soon-to-come election ?

Or think of Obama.

"YES WE CAN!!" ... one of the bigger scams.
It manipulated the feelings of the people in a quite awesome way ... and he won.
Totally understandable that he won ... he did the right thing at the right time.

But did it really change anything ? No.


Politics nowadays is about manipulating the masses.
That's no conspiracy, that's just how it works nowadays.

Science at it's best.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-03-07 22:09:19 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
No no no, im sorry but i cant agree with this. Scamming your way onto the CSM is not on, sorry but its not.. It just makes a mockery of the whole thing...


Exactly like in real life.

Welcome to enlightenment. :)
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-03-07 22:10:24 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Sorry it works in real life too? What? Does it? I think i would like to know which country and electoral system you come from


Yes, it does.
It doesn't wonder me that you're not realizing it, though.

Never wondered why politicians need others to write their speeches ?
Never heard of Neurolinguistic programming ?

Never realized that politicians are quite picky about what they are saying
and that they often actually say nothing, although they use plenty of words ?

Never ever heard a politician lie ?

Never noticed that politicians give goodies before the next soon-to-come election ?

Or think of Obama.

"YES WE CAN!!" ... one of the bigger scams.
It manipulated the feelings of the people in a quite awesome way ... and he won.
Totally understandable that he won ... he did the right thing at the right time.

But did it really change anything ? No.


Politics nowadays is about manipulating the masses.
That's no conspiracy, that's just how it works nowadays.

Science at it's best.


What you about thats not the same thing at all. Hacve you had a politicia come up to you and say ill promise to give you $100 for your vote, and then say sorry thanks for the vote but your not getting anything.. Hmmm i dont think so...
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