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Automated spam mails by CSM cantidates allowed?

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Daquaris
Aegis Victorium
The Initiative.
#1 - 2012-03-07 09:56:42 UTC
Seriously - Is this allowed?

We have a cantidate - Trebor Daehdoow Spamming everyone in EVE.

It appears he is using a bot that scrapes player names from the forums.

Here is JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

http://i.imgur.com/A6q8m.png

Should the CSM / CSM cantidates be allowed to do this?

Who else has gotten this mail? If you have, you should petition it probably.
Kasumatsu
Assets and Holdings
#2 - 2012-03-07 09:59:20 UTC
> Should the CSM / CSM cantidates be allowed to do this?

IMO, no, they shouldn't.
CptBen
Douchingtons
#3 - 2012-03-07 09:59:21 UTC
Beep Beep
Guillane Itaril
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-03-07 09:59:45 UTC
This shall not be a TEST sperging Thread but a serious discussion about Trebor's abuse of Mailspamming (Bots).

I also recieved this Mail. Every single recipient on that List is in my Alliance. Even my highsec alt got it. It seems like he is grabbing Names off Evegate or something like that.

http://i.imgur.com/fKV3J.png
Raptor217
Nomadic Spacial Bunnies Support Division
#5 - 2012-03-07 10:01:31 UTC
I hear reply all is a legal and effective way to spread another candidates name around. Say.... Dovinian.....


BEEP BEEP!
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-03-07 10:08:26 UTC
Vel Igunen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-03-07 10:09:11 UTC
This is stupid, my characters that don't even login game are getting spammed by this dickbag. I logged into the forums on my other character and not two minutes later it had the message also.

CCP should disqualify him from running and refund the votes to the people who voted for him.
Madlof Chev
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-03-07 10:14:47 UTC
I'm pretty disappointed. I have my CSPA set to 1m ISK to avoid spam, and in it comes regardless. I don't see why anyone would expect me to vote for them when they intrude into my mailbox and I don't think anyone else should either.
Guillane Itaril
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-03-07 10:16:42 UTC
Thank you Senior GM Huginn btw. (You probably wont have zime to read this, but are answering all the Petitions..)
We are sorry to make your day a busy one but we all feel harassed and actions like this are not healthy for EVE and should not be allowed.
If this was allowed everyone would get constant automated Mailspams, it would make the game horrible.

This is not how CSM Candidates should behave
Aidamina Omen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-03-07 10:18:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Aidamina Omen
Daquaris wrote:
Seriously - Is this allowed?

We have a cantidate - Trebor Daehdoow Spamming everyone in EVE.

It appears he is using a bot that scrapes player names from the forums.

Here is JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

http://i.imgur.com/A6q8m.png

Should the CSM / CSM cantidates be allowed to do this?

Who else has gotten this mail? If you have, you should petition it probably.



I can confirm that me and my alliance received the same spam. I would really like to CCP to act on this, as this is setting a really bad precedence. I thought that an important part of being allowed to run for CSM is that you adhere to the EULA. I am pretty sure the EULA prohibits sending spam.

He claims to have gotten permission by a senior GM. Can CCP please explain to us why this is different then say a mass recruitment email? Favoritism much? Surely he has to play by the same rules as everybody else.

And if CCP gave the Trebor the go ahead on this, did they also notify the other candidates that contrary to what the rules of the candidacy state, they are in fact above the TOS?

See:

Quote:

Candidate Eligibility

To be considered for eligibility, a candidate must submit a photocopy of a valid passport to CCP. Once CCP has verified the player’s identity and confirmed his or her account status, the candidate’s real name and character selection of choice will be officially announced to the community.

Please note: Icelandic citizens are only required to submit a driver’s license or other valid photo ID. All candidates have to be able to travel to Iceland; CCP will not arrange any permits to enter the country should visa or similar be required.

Warnings for serious EVE-related misconduct might bar the person from running for candidacy.
Candidates are expected to be active on the CSM forums and participate in the discussion of topics. They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. In addition, they must be willing and able to travel to Iceland once during their term for a direct meeting with the CCP Council. Should a Representative be unable to attend this meeting, an Alternate will attend in his or her place. Transportation to and from Iceland, plus lodging, lunch, and dinner will be provided by CCP. Candidates are responsible for all other expenses incurred during the trip. Elected Representatives and Alternates are required to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) before commencing their term.

If a candidate is unable to fulfill these requirements, the candidate with the next highest vote tally will be given their position. This process will continue until there are a total of nine Representatives and five Alternates.

source: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM#Candidate_Eligibility
Joseph Sulaco
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-03-07 10:19:01 UTC
Step one: Find a resource like EVE WHO
Step Two; ctrl-c ctrl-v into EVE Gate
Step Three; ????
Step Four: Free trip to iceland!

Whatever... If you think using a third party program to do so, petition it! It's more likely that he called in sick to work just to copy paste a bunch of names into EVE Gate.
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#12 - 2012-03-07 10:22:11 UTC
I'm running for CSM just like this guy and yet I too got his mail.

Can you imagine how STUPID this is? Ugh

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
Mintrolio
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-03-07 10:22:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mintrolio
CONFRIMIGN SPAM MALE IS LOWER FORMS OF LIFE THEN GOON TROLL.

SHOLD NOT BE ALLOW.

ALSO I AM ALSO GETIGN THES MALE - IS MAK ME VER ANGREY.

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-03-07 10:25:22 UTC
He spammed me and Vile Rat both, too. :cripes:

~hi~
Mintrolio
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-03-07 10:27:55 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
He spammed me and Vile Rat both, too. :cripes:


CONFRIMIGN DO YOU UPSETIGN HIM? IS HE NO WANT TO TAKIGN MINTES ANYMOR?

ALSO I CAN DO MINITES FUR CSM MEATIGNS WHEN I AM VOTE FUR CSM WINNER.

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
sammytrailor
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-03-07 10:31:06 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
He spammed me and Vile Rat both, too. :cripes:


Must have convinced you to vote for him?
SuperBeastie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-07 10:32:01 UTC  |  Edited by: SuperBeastie
I have block unknown characters on and this crap got to me WTF?

[center]SuperBeastie's Third Party Service My in-game Channel is Supers Third Party[/center]
Mirrodin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-03-07 10:33:51 UTC
Also spammed and not pleased. CCP needs to act on this, or at least respond.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-07 10:34:16 UTC
He did this last year, and i remember him smugly gloating about it at last years fanfest

Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
If you push for me, I will keep on pushing for you.

Sexy

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Aiifa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-03-07 10:34:48 UTC
Aidamina Omen wrote:
Daquaris wrote:
Seriously - Is this allowed?

We have a cantidate - Trebor Daehdoow Spamming everyone in EVE.

It appears he is using a bot that scrapes player names from the forums.

Here is JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

http://i.imgur.com/A6q8m.png

Should the CSM / CSM cantidates be allowed to do this?

Who else has gotten this mail? If you have, you should petition it probably.



I can confirm that me and my alliance received the same spam. I would really like to CCP to act on this, as this is setting a really bad precedence. I thought that an important part of being allowed to run for CSM is that you adhere to the EULA. I am pretty sure the EULA prohibits sending spam.

Also:

Quote:

Candidate Eligibility

To be considered for eligibility, a candidate must submit a photocopy of a valid passport to CCP. Once CCP has verified the player’s identity and confirmed his or her account status, the candidate’s real name and character selection of choice will be officially announced to the community.

Please note: Icelandic citizens are only required to submit a driver’s license or other valid photo ID. All candidates have to be able to travel to Iceland; CCP will not arrange any permits to enter the country should visa or similar be required.

Warnings for serious EVE-related misconduct might bar the person from running for candidacy.
Candidates are expected to be active on the CSM forums and participate in the discussion of topics. They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. In addition, they must be willing and able to travel to Iceland once during their term for a direct meeting with the CCP Council. Should a Representative be unable to attend this meeting, an Alternate will attend in his or her place. Transportation to and from Iceland, plus lodging, lunch, and dinner will be provided by CCP. Candidates are responsible for all other expenses incurred during the trip. Elected Representatives and Alternates are required to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) before commencing their term.

If a candidate is unable to fulfill these requirements, the candidate with the next highest vote tally will be given their position. This process will continue until there are a total of nine Representatives and five Alternates.

source: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM#Candidate_Eligibility



actually the TOS http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp

entry #1: "You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions..."

A vote for trebor is a vote for a wanton attention seeking dickhead

So Vote Two Step. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68091
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