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Dictor vs Hictor
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My Neutral Toon
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-06 21:14:50 UTC  |  Edited by: My Neutral Toon
I would like some clarification


Interdictor = destroyer class tackle/bubble ship
Heavy Interdictor = cruiser class tackle/bubble ship with greater offensive/defensive capabilities


Are these ships so different that the training trees should not be related? I was told that the ships were totally different from each other, flown different and had nothing to do with each other and that the experience from flying one had nothing to do with flying the other.


Clarification please?

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Derkata
#2 - 2012-03-06 21:38:16 UTC
The Heavy Indertictor produces a bubble that surrounds it and moves with it. In addition it can be scripted to point a single target (or used in low sec) and is the only way to tackle a super in low sec.

The destroy class dictors drops probes that bubble, so it can bubble and then move away from that spot.

So yes, they are pretty different both in approach and how you use them.
Mordeth Ventox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-06 21:46:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Mordeth Ventox
Well both deploy bubbles, but that is where the similarity ends.

The DIC is more suitable for small gang warfare (roams/gate camps). Sure you can use a HIC for those situations, but its slow speed and limited offensive capabilities makes it less than desirable. The DIC can both snare and pop many smaller craft as well as deploy multiple bubbles (using a double bubble fit).

The HIC is more designed for large fleet engagements. They are designed to tackle a cap ship and survive long enough for support ships to get a point (or ten). They can take a beating but aren't really suited to doing any significant DPS.
My Neutral Toon
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-06 21:48:38 UTC
Ah, I forgot about the moving bubble. thanks for the clarification.

I still think you should have to train for a dictor before you should be able to train for a hictor. But idk, guess its just me.

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Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#5 - 2012-03-06 22:01:07 UTC
common mix up...

Your confusing ship function with skills trained in a liniar path. Alot of Ex WOW players do that.. anything with a Lvl Based ability result will give you this assumption.

Eve is not really like that.

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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#6 - 2012-03-06 23:28:04 UTC
Based on the dev blogs, it looks like the skill training may become more linear in Inferno though Straight

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Misanthra
Alternative Enterprises
#7 - 2012-03-06 23:51:14 UTC
My Neutral Toon wrote:
Ah, I forgot about the moving bubble. thanks for the clarification.

I still think you should have to train for a dictor before you should be able to train for a hictor. But idk, guess its just me.



why? they are different skill sets and flying styles.

Dictors speed in drive by style and try like hell to get a good string of bubbles up. Sometimes they live, sometimes they go boom (sometimes in the same bubble they put up lol). Ships are priced accordingly for this role....you can lose a few dictors to the price of 1 hic.

Hics not on bubble detail are longer points for the ranged tackle that is harder to kill. these don't fly in kamikaze banzai style.


No correlation between the 2. You will fly you a HAC like you fly your AF. So here you'd have a point about needing the smaller assualt ship to get the bigger one. But go around flying your broadsword like a sabre.....hope you are good at making isk, you will be losing quite a few.
M1k3y Koontz
House of Musashi
Stay Feral
#8 - 2012-03-11 17:03:55 UTC
Also, Dictors usually die in a fleet fight (though hictors get primaried also), and have rather low survival rates in a gang too.

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Silas Shaw
Coffee Hub
#9 - 2012-03-11 17:42:44 UTC
Lets add that if you live in a WH, your corp needs at least a couple of Hictors.

And i dont see any personal use for a little one, but i <3 the HIC.
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#10 - 2012-03-12 15:08:54 UTC
Interdictor = one-shot bubble with zero anchor time. Drop your bubble, update your clone, try to get your new ship back to the fight before it's over. Don't even bother fitting anything but a bubble and MWD, if you somehow survive the first drop, you immediately warp to a safespot until you're ready to drop another one. On the good side, your killboard stats will be awesome since you usually pick up credit for both friendly AND hostile kills.

HIC = lowsec supercapital tackler and WCS counter. Put your infinipoint on something expensive that can't be tackled any other way, and hope your EHP buffer lasts long enough for the rest of your fleet to kill it. Technically you have a bubble, but the fact that it goes away when you die (yes, when, not if) means that there's rarely any reason to use it over a standard interdictor.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#11 - 2012-03-12 15:52:36 UTC
I believe you can also stop people with a DIC's bubble. For example, you know a fleet us warping from gate a to gate b. A DIC at gate b can align to gate a, mwd a bit, then fire the bubble. The incoming fleet will stop on the bubble, giving you time to sniper irrun. You may lose the DIC, but it was lost when you undocked. Using a HIC in such a situation may lead to an.expensive loss mail.
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-12 16:52:09 UTC
Good interdictor pilots are worth their weight in gold. They're the ones that don't die in their own bubles but keep you unable to warp out again and again and again.