EVE General Discussion

Yeah I read that one too. One might argue that Nex clothing is the same seeing as how people buy it for plex convertions and put it on the market but that is something I loathe in Eve Online as short-circuiting player industry and cheapening the whole universe simulation. Allowing people to pay to win gold tanks in Dust and defending that by saying "they can sell them on the market and other people can buy them" yeah okay, technically I suppose, but its a pretty souless industry simulation that way.

Let me repeat, its the CCP handling of Nex/Incarna that more than anything else has made me extremely distrustful of Dust and all it will likely bring to the core game.

Considering that it's linked to Eve, it's very likely we'll be able to build those same tanks to ship to our ground troops. We'll also be paying those same ground troops. If we want them to have gold tanks, we buy them. Problem solved. It sounds like the dust system will have faction warfare and pirates for the new guys to cut their teeth on before they move up to the big leagues of 0.0 planetslogging.

Remember, too, that those players will still have to earn the ability to use the equipment they purchased. They can't hop online day one, shell out a hundred dollars, and be driving around in a plasma destroyer.

Is that in the way we were given the ability to build NeX clothing?



Perhaps. Or perhaps one simply folds out the credit card and buys a gold tank. Who knows really? I find the information available at present lacking in any detail and specifics.

Bullets that cost the same as Dreadnaughts yes. Come on this is a silly argument. With items of clothing costing much more than battleships and often more than capital ships its inconceivable that capsuleer industrialists would not be interested in these markets.



So what is special about the NeX clothes in your understanding of the IC universe?

Surely you can control the minimum price in the same way you control the minimum price on a t2 rig bpo or such - expensive commodities and inputs. I don't see this as any argument why NeX goods shouldn't simply be delivered to the game in the traditional manner as bpos to allow player industry.



Sure but having rolled out the NeX shop items as content for Incarna why do we expect different for Dust 514? I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe that CCP can currently be trusted where MTs are concerned.

First, assume that player X has three accounts to do mining. Player X used to run three accounts on separate computers. Today, Player X logs in two accounts on separate computers. The third computer has a crappy video card (or at least, it does now that CQ fried it).

Player X is expecting to upgrade the third computer at some point in the near future, and the character on that account is training useful skills. For example, it might be full of datacore farmers, trade alts, price checkers, whatever. There is some advantage to having that account still active even though it cannot be run contemporaneously. And there's the computer upgrade coming Real Soon Now (it's in the household budget, but not until March next year).

Player Y has three accounts. Player Y is a spy. Player Y used to run three accounts on separate computers. Today, Player Y can only use 1 computer because one died (CQ again) and the other is just plain old underpowered. Player Y keeps those accounts active because they still provide value, even if the value is diminished by the information gained not being real-time. Player Y needs the accounts separate since a simple API check will expose the alternate characters all belonging to various executor corps.

So there are at least two instances where a person would have multiple accounts subscribed, but only be playing a small number of them.

The increased GPU load and the dropping of SM2.0 will have affected a (statistically) significant portion of the population. Of course, I'm not disputing that many people will have stopped playing and unsubscribed simply because they felt that strongly about NeX and CQ, even though their computers are more than capable of running EVE Online.