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I'm tired of making individual purchases
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Not So Perfect
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-06 01:08:44 UTC
If there are a bunch of orders up selling a certain item (say tritanium), I would like to say something like: "I will buy up to X units at up to Y price" and have the broker automatically make those purchases for me, buying starting at the cheapest price and buying up to whatever quantity I set, so long as it doesn't exceed the price I've outlined.

I'd further like a little popup that notifies me when I can't buy everything at once, due to price restriction, lack of funds, etc etc etc.

But yeah, basically I want brokers that do their job.
astara989
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-03-06 04:03:00 UTC
Have you heard of buy orders?
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-03-06 04:19:57 UTC
If you had the time to place a buy order you wouldn't be buying from sell orders.
Director Producer
LRC Inc.
#4 - 2012-03-06 08:56:55 UTC
I am encountering the same problem.

I already know buy orders are the answer and it would allow me to make more margin.
However, when you can't stay 24/7 in front of your computer to update them, you don't buy anything.
Especially when you are in a hub.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-03-06 09:05:00 UTC
1. Buy from seller to identify who has a lot to move.
2. Convo seller and arrange a deal to purchase the desired bulk you need.
3. ?????????
4. Profit!
Director Producer
LRC Inc.
#6 - 2012-03-06 09:29:02 UTC
That sounds good Big smile
I'll give a try in the next few days.

Thank you for that advice.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#7 - 2012-03-06 10:42:19 UTC
astara989 wrote:
Have you heard of buy orders?



The one thing with this is:

Buy orders always go off at their maximum price. Not the sell's minimum.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2012-03-06 13:10:22 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
astara989 wrote:
Have you heard of buy orders?



The one thing with this is:

Buy orders always go off at their maximum price. Not the sell's minimum.



so?

Assuming the low sell is 4.95 and the high buy is 4.45, you're not gonna set a buy order for trit at (up to) 5.00 ISK. It'll be something like 4.5... and then wait a few days.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#9 - 2012-03-06 13:13:44 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
snip!

so?
Assuming the low sell is 4.95 and the high buy is 4.45, you're not gonna set a buy order for trit at (up to) 5.00 ISK. It'll be something like 4.5... and then wait a few days.


The OP wasn't asking for that. He was asking for something that bought at the minimum a sell order would go at, before moving to the next highest and buying at that.

Personally, I don't care. I'm happy with the system the way it is. I was just pointing out the flaw in the suggestion.

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Telchin Dai
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#10 - 2012-03-06 13:45:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Telchin Dai
You can always do a "trimming the market" thing

If I set up a buy order for, if we take trit, 10m trit @ 4.45, it will buy everything on the market below that price.

Obviously if I set the range to region it will clear a load of the market a long way away, so not ideal, but if I set it to station, it will still do the same thing.

I do this with stupid low orders that are irritating me for an item, just clear the entire lower market with one order.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#11 - 2012-03-06 14:08:24 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
snip!

so?
Assuming the low sell is 4.95 and the high buy is 4.45, you're not gonna set a buy order for trit at (up to) 5.00 ISK. It'll be something like 4.5... and then wait a few days.


The OP wasn't asking for that. He was asking for something that bought at the minimum a sell order would go at, before moving to the next highest and buying at that.

Personally, I don't care. I'm happy with the system the way it is. I was just pointing out the flaw in the suggestion.


OK, yeah, reading it again that makes sense -- I read the OP as saying "so, I wanted to buy 2m trit, but I can't find a sell order for 2m at a price I like, so I just buy the cheapest things in turn".

TBH though, I'll either find the "most expensive" item with the most volume (well, where "most expensive" is still reasonable -- e.g. 4.95 for trit if I need everything in the 4.9-4.94 sell orders anyway, not that I use sell orders for mineralsBlink ), or I'll just do the buy order at the price I'm willing to pay, and deal with the "loss" as compared to buying out each order in turn.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-03-06 16:18:05 UTC
Not So Perfect wrote:
If there are a bunch of orders up selling a certain item (say tritanium), I would like to say something like: "I will buy up to X units at up to Y price" and have the broker automatically make those purchases for me,

But yeah, basically I want brokers that do their job.


Fortunately for you this is exactly what the broker does (though he does not adjust to minimal value he buys at the value you tell him to)

Check the sell orders, go up in price up to the point where you have all the volume you need. Then click on THAT buy order and buy whatever you need.

Voila order will be filled.

It works best with an example say you want to be 1000 units and the market looks like this:


10 units @ 102
30 units @ 103
450 units @ 104
1500 units @ 105
120 units @ 106
12000 units @ 107

click on the order for 1000 units ask to buy 1000 units and VOILA you get your stuff. (@ 105 isk/unit)

if you wanted to buy 10,000 units you would click on the 12,000 unit order and VOILA - you get your stuff (in essence cleaning out all the smaller orders).

It's that or buy orders.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#13 - 2012-03-06 16:48:42 UTC
This function is already in the game. Simply look at the market orders and decide how much you would pay for whatever you want. If your offering price is higher than some sell orders, the market will automatically buy all of them for you until it either runs out of minerals below your offer or your order is filled.

But if you want to play 0.01 ISK games for every tiny bit of ISK, then yes, you will need to do it yourself. So choose, saving ISK and doing stuff painstakingly by hand or saving time and paying a few ISK for it (which is the kind of philosophy that all of Eve works on).