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poll what to do about moon minning?

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#1 - 2012-03-05 17:51:19 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
Option 1 is just balance tech Moons and bring them in line with the rest of moon goo plus enhance alchemy so you can make technium...

Option 2. Remove moon minning from Pos (requires Gal to be changed) and replace it with Dynamic MI (A replica of PI) this would also affect dust eventually as you would be able to fight on moons...


edit option 3:

Make moons deplete and respawn in another region each time. Force people to actually do the scanning and work required to obtain that rediculous income that currently comes far too easy. If you wanna whine and complain about how much work moon scanning is...grow some balls.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Jovan Geldon
Los Rastrojos
#2 - 2012-03-05 18:00:16 UTC
Option 3. You are dumb, stop posting
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-03-05 18:03:01 UTC
not sure ... But i heard the biggest problem about moon mining is tied to tech 2 manufacturing.. but as i said i do not know.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#4 - 2012-03-05 18:08:55 UTC
It needs competition. There are a hundred different ways to do it, all would work. Unless I see proof CCP are paying attention, I'm just feed snot shotter trolls so I won't waste time putting any on the table.
Valei Khurelem
#5 - 2012-03-05 18:12:23 UTC
Ocih wrote:
It needs competition. There are a hundred different ways to do it, all would work. Unless I see proof CCP are paying attention, I'm just feed snot shotter trolls so I won't waste time putting any on the table.


The problem is it's far to easy for vets and alliances to hold 0.0 space that's why they have such a ******** advantage, CCP should snub any attempts made by them to make the game even easier.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6 - 2012-03-05 18:12:34 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Option 1 is just balance tech Moons and bring them in line with the rest of moon goo plus enhance alchemy so you can make technium...

Option 2. Remove moon minning from Pos (requires Gal to be changed) and replace it with Dynamic MI (A replica of PI) this would also affect dust eventually as you would be able to fight on moons...


How about get you ass out of Republic University, put together a monster blob, go take some moons for yourselves and stop whining that other people can play a better game than you.

Mr Epeen Cool
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-03-05 18:18:01 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Option 1 is just balance tech Moons and bring them in line with the rest of moon goo plus enhance alchemy so you can make technium...

Option 2. Remove moon minning from Pos (requires Gal to be changed) and replace it with Dynamic MI (A replica of PI) this would also affect dust eventually as you would be able to fight on moons...


How about get you ass out of Republic University, put together a monster blob, go take some moons for yourselves and stop whining that other people can play a better game than you.

Mr Epeen Cool


Monster blob of what ? Rifters ??

You cant build supercaps without sov, you cant take sov without supercaps, circle of life ends.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#8 - 2012-03-05 18:21:45 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Option 1 is just balance tech Moons and bring them in line with the rest of moon goo plus enhance alchemy so you can make technium...

Option 2. Remove moon minning from Pos (requires Gal to be changed) and replace it with Dynamic MI (A replica of PI) this would also affect dust eventually as you would be able to fight on moons...


How about get you ass out of Republic University, put together a monster blob, go take some moons for yourselves and stop whining that other people can play a better game than you.

Mr Epeen Cool


says the man in the one alt corp...Blink

no but seriously something needs to be done about tech Moons just like the other moon goo back in the day... but this time there needs to be proper balance..

CCP could just do option 1 which is more then likely whats going to happen...

but personally i think option two would be better for the game...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-03-05 18:41:32 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Option 1 is just balance tech Moons and bring them in line with the rest of moon goo plus enhance alchemy so you can make technium...

Option 2. Remove moon minning from Pos (requires Gal to be changed) and replace it with Dynamic MI (A replica of PI) this would also affect dust eventually as you would be able to fight on moons...

The thing is, technetium is literally in everything T2. No amount of rejiggering will wipe away the fact that it is a bottleneck material. Even if it is, some other material will be the bottleneck next, with howls to nerf it too. The one bright spot in the first proposal is to enhance alchemy so that you can make technetium. This widens the tech base and removes the region specificity of tech. (If you have the right moons/reactions you can make tech anywhere.)

Your second option, does not address the fact that tech is a region specific material only available in the North. (something CCP has stated they want to keep) Although the MI idea has some merit, the logistics of it on an alliance level would be staggering. I myself have one character doing PI on five planets, and it is a tedious clickfest, now extrapolate that to 10, 20, 40 or even 70 moons. If you want no or very few moon materials, which would make T2 prices go through the roof, then by all means implement a PI clone for moons.

The only good idea is the expansion of alchemy to produce all the rarities of moon materials. All your other ideas, are horrible, or ill informed drivel.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-03-05 18:48:20 UTC
Neither of the OP's options are sufficient.

Make moons deplete and respawn in another region each time. Force people to actually do the scanning and work required to obtain that rediculous income that currently comes far too easy. If you wanna whine and complain about how much work moon scanning is...grow some balls.

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Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-03-05 18:53:13 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Neither of the OP's options are sufficient.

Make moons deplete and respawn in another region each time. Force people to actually do the scanning and work required to obtain that rediculous income that currently comes far too easy. If you wanna whine and complain about how much work moon scanning is...grow some balls.


This!!!
Just make depletion slow so that its worth fighting for... like 3 months of exploatation and the moon is dead and spawns in other region.
Its worth fighting for and its dynamic.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#12 - 2012-03-05 18:55:06 UTC
updated op with vertisce suggestion...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
#13 - 2012-03-05 19:05:55 UTC
Once again moons are brought up by someone who doesn't understand what they are talking about.

Moons (for the most part) are fine, perhaps they could do with some balancing along the lines of distribution, but the actual mechanic is not the problem.

Anyone, ANYONE in Eve can hold a tech moon, you just need to organize and motivate several thousand people, and push them into a fight with several thousand other people who would rather keep that moon for themselves. I know many people like yourself believe that they are entitled to "easy" isk, a "level" playing field, shouldn't be forced to have to interact with other players, leave the safety of empire, or god forbid fight/PVP to protect or take a slice of the rewards because you're a special little snowflake.

Eve is unfair, just like real life. Deal with it or play something else. Simples


Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-03-05 19:11:19 UTC
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Now for on topic.
Tech 3 moons, deal with it.

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#15 - 2012-03-05 19:11:36 UTC
All they need is redistributing, eve needs high value income sources or there will be nothing to drive conflict, if anything other moons value should be increased at the expense of the ISK facets like ratting and missions to help drive conflict in smaller groups (without affecting tech value)

OP doesn't think about what is good for the game, only himself.
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-03-05 19:20:05 UTC
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
All they need is redistributing, eve needs high value income sources or there will be nothing to drive conflict, if anything other moons value should be increased at the expense of the ISK facets like ratting and missions to help drive conflict in smaller groups (without affecting tech value)

OP doesn't think about what is good for the game, only himself.


And there is now so much conflict... so much that everybody is blue to everybody there... Lol
Vito Antonio
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-03-05 19:23:15 UTC
Moon mining should be moved to hisec, so that nullsec carebears will actually have to compete with others and lose their RISK FREE income.
Roh Voleto
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-03-05 19:43:19 UTC
My, completely unqualified, moon mining proposal:


  • Every moon can yield every material and multiple materials, regardless of truesec. The exact composition of every moon is randomly determined, at a random date per moon, every 7-14 days.

  • The maximum yield of a moon is determined at a random day every 4-12 weeks. Again, ignoring truesec.

  • Moon mining requires a dedicated tower. Once you install a harvesting array, you can install nothing but more harvesting arrays and storage silos.

  • Every moon material requires a different type of harvesting array.

  • Ninja Moon Mining: A small tower or capital industrial which can be quickly installed, recalled, and destroyed, and can harvest moon materials without any regard for sov.
Toshiroma McDiesel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-03-05 19:51:19 UTC
All resource harvesting should be done by a piloted ship. I don't see why some people complain that someone might be afk mining in a hulk, when there are huge piles of raw materials that are gathered not only while afk, but the "miner" doesn't even have to log in!

Make moon mining need a ship like a modified Rorqual - Capital Class Miners.

(and yes, I think PI should have something similar done as well)

I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service.

Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-03-05 19:56:59 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Option 1 is just balance tech Moons and bring them in line with the rest of moon goo plus enhance alchemy so you can make technium...

Option 2. Remove moon minning from Pos (requires Gal to be changed) and replace it with Dynamic MI (A replica of PI) this would also affect dust eventually as you would be able to fight on moons...


edit option 3:

Make moons deplete and respawn in another region each time. Force people to actually do the scanning and work required to obtain that rediculous income that currently comes far too easy. If you wanna whine and complain about how much work moon scanning is...grow some balls.



you little turd. come out of that NPC corp and post on your main.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
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