EVE General Discussion

@CCP_Diagoras, tweeted on Saturday that 8.5 trillion in Incursion rewards went out in February compared to ~4.8 trillion from mission rewards. Interestingly, there was also a net-payout of ~1.7 trillion in insurance (difference between insurance payouts and insurance purchase).

For a sense of market transactions, total market transactions were 297.4 trillion and 42.6 trillion contract payments.

That means mission payouts represent 1.4% of all transaction made in a month. That's nothing. NOTHING. And yes, I realize that a lot of those sales are going to be market arbitraging and not a real measure of the value of goods produced and consumed. But it's still a key measure of market activity since market arbitraging only works if there's a substantial market for what's being arbitraged.

Another way of looking at this is how much income mission running generates per active account per month.

Most MMOs have worked on a 10% rule - they assume that 10% of their total active (and "active" is a key word here) subscription base will log-on for prime-time -- if you're not active, you're not generating mission income. With 50k prime-time logins, that suggests an active subscription base of approximate 500,000.

Divide 4.8 trillion by 500,000 and you get 9,600,000 isk/account/month. So we're clear, missions pay out 9.6 million isk per active account per month...per month. Not per hour. Not per day. Not per session. Per month.

I realize not everyone in eve is a mission runner, but I also bet that everyone logged in has a way of making isk somehow, and that they have figured-out how to make more than 9.6 million in a month from the various isk faucets in the game.

Hells bells, people, if everyone who logged into the game tonight were to run a couple of level 4 missions they could make enough isk to match the entire amount of mission pay-outs from last month.

Somehow you want to convince me that Level 4 missions are causing some kind of huge inflationary pressure on the game that is destroying the economy? I don't think so.

Yes, and building a team (or joining a corp) is most dificult this days - except if you start the game with some friends you already know and can trust that you won't be backstabed. From what is goin on on forums and chat channels, there are bunch of players and corps that only want to rob you or use you as fresh meat.

The percent that you find honest corp is 1:100 (100 are bad corps). So, pick your poison (if you are young player). And from what I see, experienced players mostly have their fingers in their ears or in their a**es. Maybe there are honest players, but they are hard to find, like all good things ...

Working backwards, some of us have no concern about the "rest of the game". It is meaningless to us, it holds nothing for us. And if the "rest of the game" is what makes the "right players", then I am more than happy to be doing it wrong. I don't want to be like those players. Players, mind you, who are trumpeting the epic awesomeness of nulsec so much, that they can't even keep their noses there, where it belongs. You know, mind your business, we'll mind ours, and the galaxy keeps on spinning, more or less. This crap is nothing more than that, crap, diarrhetically spewed by the "royalty" of Eve, the 1%, our so-called betters.

I noticed that you didn't address the isk ratio that I mentioned, and probably for good reason. All this rhetoric about risk:reward really applies to both sides of the argument. After all, people running complexes, in the backyards of their domains in nul, they run them with relatively little risk for even more reward than what us hisec schlubs ever see in a month of running level fours. How about the officer and faction drops or the moon goo? You guys can talk all you want about all the risks that you take, but the truth is that the ones who take the most risk (real risk) are the mom and pop corps in nulsec. Nulsec isn't a big old bad place. Look at the map on the front page for christ sake.

You want to break the game for people, cool. Be my guest. But as it has been said a thousand times before, you can't make anyone do what they don't want to do. Take away the level fours, go ahead. I'll find somewhere else to spend that money. At least I don't conjure up Bush-esque intel turning level 4s into Eve's equivalent of WMDs in Iraq. At least I'm smart enough to mind my own house, and not concern myself with what my neighbors have.