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Nerf AFK cloakers
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JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-04 09:33:12 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2
They generate false intel while not playing the game.

Not playing the game should not be rewarded.

Edit : To precise things up.

People have to sacrifice resources ( such a cloaked alt nearby ) for a person that may as well not even be at their keyboard.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-03-04 09:36:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Crying botter spotted.
Also: coward hiding behind an alt spotted.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#3 - 2012-03-04 09:40:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Xercodo
It's not, they don't earn anything.

And the same phrase can be thrown back at you, if your a botter especially so, if not then of course you shouldn't be rewarded for stopping all operations cause a velator with a cloak is hanging out with you =D

People have defense fleets for a reason.

Honestly, it baffles me why 0.0 groups don't have a fleet 24/7.

"But that would be boring!"

Then you rat and run plexs! Problem solved. It's a win-win, make money, always defended Cool

The Drake is a Lie
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-04 09:41:17 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Crying botter spotted.


If i was a botter i would be banned few days ago.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-03-04 09:45:04 UTC
Buff bravery and intelligence of ratters.

Not playing the game is already not rewarded. Generating false intel is the only way to combat a broken intel system — until that intel system is fixed, the means to combat it must remain.
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-03-04 09:46:11 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2
Xercodo wrote:
It's not, they don't earn anything.


Yes they do ,in a sense they change behavior of other players via generating false intel while not playing a game.


Xercodo wrote:

And the same phrase can be thrown back at you, if your a botter especially so, if not then of course you shouldn't be rewarded for stopping all operations cause a velator with a cloak is hanging out with you =D

Again if i was a bot i would have been banned for 14?? days.


Xercodo wrote:

People have defense fleets for a reason.

How do you defend against false intele generation. Not even a fleet of supercaps can accomplish that.

Xercodo wrote:
It's not, they don't earn anything.
Honestly, it baffles me why 0.0 groups don't have a fleet 24/7.

"But that would be boring!"

Look above

Xercodo wrote:

Then you rat and run plexs! Problem solved. It's a win-win, make money, always defended Cool

Why afk players is rewarded of changing my behavior that suits him while not playing the game ???
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2012-03-04 09:46:14 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Crying botter spotted.


If i was a botter i would be banned few days ago.






Oh how I wish CCP got them all.

Also grow a spine.
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-03-04 09:49:07 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:


Oh how I wish CCP got them all.

Also grow a spine.


You sir are lacking fundamental logic skill. I never said ratting should be allowed in a complete safety. As for me CCP could even remove local, that would ifx the problem i am describing also.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2012-03-04 09:49:18 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
It's not, they don't earn anything.
Yes they do ,in a sense they change behavior of other players via generating false intel while not playing a game.
…which isn't the same as earning anything.

Quote:
How do you defend against false intele generation.
By taking precautions and not being completely dependent on a single intel system for all your decisions.

Quote:
Why afk players is rewarded of changing my behavior that suits him while not playing the game ???
He's not.
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-03-04 09:51:57 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Buff bravery and intelligence of ratters.

Not playing the game is already not rewarded. Generating false intel is the only way to combat a broken intel system .


Those two sentences are excluding each other.

You are either not rewarded or you generate false intel , you cant have both.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#11 - 2012-03-04 09:52:37 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:


Not playing the game should not be rewarded.


I know, right.

Like getting SP when not logged in.

It's a travesty, I tell you!

Mr Epeen Cool
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-03-04 09:52:51 UTC
It's a sandbox, you can sit still all day if you want to.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#13 - 2012-03-04 09:53:47 UTC
Afk cloakers don't have any tangible benefits from being an afk cloaker

Creating false intel for you gives him nothing

I suggested a defense fleet because you could start treating that false intel as potentially true.

Or am I wrong in assuming that you don't call in a fleet when a potential neut/red that can do a cyno sneaks into a system...

The Drake is a Lie
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-03-04 09:54:27 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Those two sentences are excluding each other.
Those are three sentences, just fyi.

Quote:
You are either not rewarded or you generate false intel
Those two are not mutually exclusive. Generating false intel is not a reward, and either way, being AFK is unrelated to both.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2012-03-04 09:55:56 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Buff bravery and intelligence of ratters.

Not playing the game is already not rewarded. Generating false intel is the only way to combat a broken intel system .


Those two sentences are excluding each other.

You are either not rewarded or you generate false intel , you cant have both.


People reporting him generate the intel. AFK cloakies pose no threat and do nothing, much like people afk in a pos or station.
Ai Shun
#16 - 2012-03-04 09:56:30 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
As for me CCP could even remove local, that would ifx the problem i am describing also.


Then your problem can be solved quite easily by minimizing your local window. The AFK cloaker will still be there; but you won't see him so you can do exactly what you're doing now without knowing if he is there or not.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#17 - 2012-03-04 09:58:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Akrasjel Lanate
Yea, propably he dosn't use them and don't want other to do that. Straight

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-03-04 09:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2
Tippia wrote:
. Generating false intel is not a reward, and either way, being AFK is unrelated to both.


Of course it is a reward. IF there wouldn't be any, they wouldn't be there in the first place.

What you are sying is AFK cloakers sits in systems all days because they are not rewarded in any way ?????
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-03-04 10:00:55 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

People reporting him generate the intel. AFK cloakies pose no threat and do nothing, much like people afk in a pos or station.


Yes but if you had basic reading skills you would see that threat of AFK cloaker is not an issue in this topic only his influence on behavior of other players while not playing the game.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#20 - 2012-03-04 10:02:54 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:

Of course it is a reward. IF there wouldn't be any, they wouldn't be there in the first place.


Really? Cause I don't help newbs for reward nor do I necessarily fly lolfits for reward.

False intel generation isn't the reward, it's the fact that you're crying about it is =D

The Drake is a Lie
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