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Ana K
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-03-03 17:15:36 UTC
I will soon go out for my first suicide gank.

I'm playing around with EFT. The alpha on my Brutix is 1,004. The EHP on a Mackinaw (EFT) with no tank is 6,000+. I'm very new to this, so does this mean that it's going to take 6 volleys to gank this Mack?!

Here's my simple Brutix fit. I don't know what else to fit for a gank run. A 5th Mag. Stab only increased the Alpha by 1 point, so probably not worth it.

[Brutix, Brutix Blasters Gank]
[empty low slot]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M

Also, my security status is .1 right now. Will a gank make me an outlaw in 1.0 space? I know there are a lot of factors at play, but was wondering anyway.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-03-03 17:32:11 UTC
Forget the ehp, it doesn't mean much when you're suicide ganking. Also, use faction ammo for the extra damage, but only take 2-3 shots for each gun. Use neutron blasters also, anything else is ****.

Make sure you overheat.

And no, you'll just get GCC.

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Ana K
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-03-03 17:42:30 UTC
Updated:

[Brutix, Brutix Blasters Gank]
[empty low slot]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Alpha is now 1,794, and turret duration is 2.94 seconds.

Will putting on some shield extenders and rigs make me last a little longer to withstand Concord? Hoping to get off as many volleys as possible before I'm dead by them.

As for EHP, I read a few times to play with EFT and try to get an idea of how much of a tank Exhumers have. Just making sure I can overcome their tanks...
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#4 - 2012-03-03 18:04:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Magnum
5x mid-meta magnetic field stabs
7x mid-meta heavy neutron blasters w/ faction antimatter
5x tech-1 hammerhead drones
warp scrambler/s
tracking computer/s with optimal range script
prop mod (not required but useful if you don't have a spot next to the target pre-bookmarked


Total cost < 30 mil


With high skills this is easily enough to kill a Hulk in 0.5 or 0.6 space. With max skills you can do it in 0.8 if they have a crap tank.
You're way waaaay off on the wrong track if you're looking at the alpha vs. the DPS on the Brutix, and even more off track if you're analyzing it based on faction guns as opposed to faction ammo.

Also, CONCORD will immediately permajam you and your drones, so it doesn't matter how long you "tank" CONCORD for since you won't be doing any damage to the target once they show up. You don't need any kind of defensive measures installed on your ship for suicide ganking.

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Tikera Tissant
#5 - 2012-03-03 21:41:10 UTC
You are seriously considering faction weapons?
Just fitting that ship will cost you as much as the hulk or two, without any guarantee that you will get any of them back.

Using meta 2 is usually cheap as hell and does enough damage.

Ganking in 0.6-0.5 will give you about 5, maybe 6 volleys, which should land you a kill on a mackinaw. And this is without drones.

If you have a friend, usually a couple of catalyst can also do the same job and cheaper.
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#6 - 2012-03-03 23:27:49 UTC
Ana K wrote:
Updated:

[Brutix, Brutix Blasters Gank]
[empty low slot]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Federation Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Alpha is now 1,794, and turret duration is 2.94 seconds.

Will putting on some shield extenders and rigs make me last a little longer to withstand Concord? Hoping to get off as many volleys as possible before I'm dead by them.

As for EHP, I read a few times to play with EFT and try to get an idea of how much of a tank Exhumers have. Just making sure I can overcome their tanks...


Suicide gank me plox. But seriously, do you even play this game?

Solo Rifter since 2009
Grirna
Bi-Polar Tendencies
#7 - 2012-03-03 23:49:16 UTC
The Macks i use have 11k hp and Hulks 30k figure out to solo one of those :)P
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-03-04 00:01:32 UTC
He said faction ammo. Not faction guns. :cripes:

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-03-04 00:02:23 UTC
Grirna wrote:
The Macks i use have 11k hp and Hulks 30k figure out to solo one of those :)P


You are the reason CCP blessed us with T3 battlecruisers.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#10 - 2012-03-04 00:14:19 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
He said faction ammo. Not faction guns. :cripes:


Did you look at his updated fit? Clearly includes faction guns.

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Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#11 - 2012-03-04 00:52:25 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
He said faction ammo. Not faction guns. :cripes:


Did you look at his updated fit? Clearly includes faction guns.

Did you look at the first reply? Clearly what this one was referring to.

Post with your monkey.

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Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-03-04 01:42:40 UTC
For ganks in 0.9 and 1.0 i think you need a 1400 tornado or tempest?

I have more space likes than you. 
Grirna
Bi-Polar Tendencies
#13 - 2012-03-04 04:45:35 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Grirna wrote:
The Macks i use have 11k hp and Hulks 30k figure out to solo one of those :)P


You are the reason CCP blessed us with T3 battlecruisers.




ROFLMAO at t3 BCs
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#14 - 2012-03-04 08:33:16 UTC
Grirna wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Grirna wrote:
The Macks i use have 11k hp and Hulks 30k figure out to solo one of those :)P


You are the reason CCP blessed us with T3 battlecruisers.




ROFLMAO at t3 BCs


Thanks for participating in our discussion. If you are genuinely interested in boasting, just post the system(s) that you mine in and "dare us" to gank you. I think you are trolling, so I wont bother with locator agent. But if you really want to strut your stuff, follow the above and someone will be along to help you :D

Hmmm
Liam Mirren
#15 - 2012-03-04 13:22:45 UTC
There's always a bigger fish :D

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-03-05 01:47:11 UTC
Grirna wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Grirna wrote:
The Macks i use have 11k hp and Hulks 30k figure out to solo one of those :)P


You are the reason CCP blessed us with T3 battlecruisers.




ROFLMAO at t3 BCs


Agreed. We're still laughing at how good they are at killing "tanked" hulks. Our next interdiction is going to be amazing.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ateab792
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-06 05:15:54 UTC
Darius III wrote:
Grirna wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Grirna wrote:
The Macks i use have 11k hp and Hulks 30k figure out to solo one of those :)P


You are the reason CCP blessed us with T3 battlecruisers.




ROFLMAO at t3 BCs


Thanks for participating in our discussion. If you are genuinely interested in boasting, just post the system(s) that you mine in and "dare us" to gank you. I think you are trolling, so I wont bother with locator agent. But if you really want to strut your stuff, follow the above and someone will be along to help you :D


gank me if you dare.
Elyham
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-03-06 15:51:10 UTC
Grirna wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Grirna wrote:
The Macks i use have 11k hp and Hulks 30k figure out to solo one of those :)P


You are the reason CCP blessed us with T3 battlecruisers.




ROFLMAO at t3 BCs


Absolutely confirming that T3 BC's are lol and under no circumstances can gank macks and hulks.