Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Add in slave farms and you have my vote.

And I mylady, will be protecting my property

...You were not kidding. Mega-threadnaught!

Just from the TL:DR, I like it. Eve has always been about complexity - and honestly, CCP needs to do a complete revamp of PI, in order to actually make it worthwhile.

Otherwise, when Dust 514 launches, nobody will care that their planet is under attack, because incursions and lvl 4 missions offer many, many times the potential ISK output.

Right now, if my lowsec PI were under attack, I wouldn't care. Ten minutes in an incursion fleet makes more ISK than my PI does in five days.

This is honestly the best thing I've ever read on the forums

Well it is amazing. Really good work and i would love to see it get live.

But, but...EVE online is about spaceships. As long as CCP is putting their main focus on ships, tweaking them, adding more content for flying in space i do not mind that in spare time they develop your project.

I absolutely LOVE your concepts, though there is one small thing I'd like to point out:

civilian, industry, and military operations go hand in hand in hand with each other. Without one, the others will fall apart or never grow very much.

If anything, one can implement this as a synergy bonus, to further encourage people to do things that would otherwise not be done. (like dropping a civilian command center on a plasma planet). Using the example, if several people can get together and help one guy get his civilian PI going, the others will have their military and industry PI doing all the better, and the civilian guy reaps the fruit of his labors and serious respect.

Just some thoughts.

[EDIT] For an idea as massive as this, I'd gladly help out however I can!

oh, and along with slave pens (Amarr), get Brothels (Galente) and Casinos (Caldari)

Then figure something out for the minmatarr

Perhaps a way to ensure PI prices don't drop like a stone would be to have PI require PI things. For example, you need food, water, and air for your basic service hubs on a civilian CC, right? so why not have people keep their basic service hubs stocked with such things (especially on planets that have nothing naturally, like plasma!)

With that, another very large consumer or PI will come about along with the ability to produce a lot more with PI, balancing it all out.

[edit]: to make things less confusing, this quote came from this thread

GRR, just had to re-type all this......

My thought is that each planet should have one single central trade hub that controls import/export to orbit (and related taxes) plus trade planetside between players and corps.

If players want to move items off world then they need to move items through this hub, paying any taxes which are set in place by the owning Corp.

Hubs can be owned by podder corps or Dustie merc units. Podders can hire NPC merc resources (weekly fee, more isk=better troops) to claim ownership over the hub. This will allow the ownership of the hub to change hands, but also populate the planet with AI troops for Dusties to fight against. If there are no Dusties then Eve pilots will have a mechanism for cliaming control. their troops could also gain benefits for control if the eve corp can get a Cap-ship in orbit and use it to bombard enemy positions.

Players could then move PI commodities to this central store and use it to set-up large scale production chains with corp members (giving them something else they need to defend).

All taxes from moving items will be set by the corp in control and will be an additional income stream. Any other player/corp who wants to use the planet will need to pay the taxes or take control of the Hub, through hiring sufficient npc-mercs or Dusties.

What this will give is a reason for Dusties and Podders to interract, reasons to hire them, NPC-AI for the dusties to combat and influence for Dusties over eve corps (and potentially sovreignty etc...)

With no caps in highsec, dusties can be introduced to combat in high-sec systems, then move onto the more complex game (with additional experience/equipment etc) buy moving on to low and Null-sec systems where the rewards along with the challenge/risks would be higher.


Keeping it simple, this would integrate the two systems and give players from both communities things to fight over, reasons to engage and benefits from having ownership.

SM.

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I was going to suggest something simpler to start....like...right click on temperate planet > land at any one of 1 to xx spaceports(must have unique names/enviroments...not just a 'door') with agents > courier missions > off world transport of goods/passengers > encoounter missions > intercept escaping smuggler in Millenium Falcon (sorry!) .....what have you > with a whole new class of ships.


The OP is much more comprehensive and though out. Well done...ALL THAT!!!

You might be on to something here. But this would need some more fleshing out.

1) Dust players would need a mechanism of ownership i.e Skills like Eve players for Command centers, or else they would not be able to physically assign ownership of such a building or network segment to a corp ceo/individual player.

2) A transfer mechanism like a courier contract for the goods that will end up going through this building. If players simply had to pay the corp who owned the trade hub and then magically give them their stuff, nothing would prevent the hub owners from taking their isk and their goods and just keeping it for themselves, thus ruining the city trading mechanism or turning it into a pirate haven.

3) The scale and level at which such a building would operate. Basically, a trade hub would bring about planetary markets, where goods no longer had to be sold on stations, but could be stored and sold/purchased on planets instead, outside of spaceships and station hangers. But instead of linking each network within a city to a tradehub, I'd propose linking individual cities to 1 planetary trade hub. This would then facilitate inter city trade on the planet (allowing cities to produce various items in eve and then trade them free market style) and can become the main market customs office for off-world trade in terms of imports and exports.

How would a planetary trade-hub effect Eve's Cities then?
i) Dust and Eve players would then vie for control of the planetary trade hub at all times. Bigger cities with bigger markets would attract bigger alliances hoping for bigger financial cuts.

ii) Planetary Trade-hub owners can impose taxes on any item that goes through, as well as provide a very solid foundation for planetary customs, i.e What those alliances would like to declare as illegal/confiscate-able contraband . This would lead to market control in the form of controlling the types and quantity of goods flowing through the city veins, or control which players can or cannot buy items from planetary cities.