Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This topic turns me on.

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I think these are all good ideas and should be added, but what I'd like to see is focused more on how PI interacts with other planets in an interdependent sort of way, while automating the process so that players don't need to micromanage (but can if they want to) so much and free them up to focus on DUST conflicts which, let's face, it is going to be the main driving force of PI action once it's released.

I'd like to see PI based around an automated, adjustable Import/Export system where planets import resources they need (running an ISK deficit based on what's ) and export surplus (gaining ISK). The automated export system gives 4 options of what to do with resources that are generated: 1: Local requirements (What the current population requires) 2: Wholesale (Planet automatically exports good to closest, highest paying importer planet, further modifiable among planetary ownership along Personal, Inter-Corporate, Inter-Alliance and Public lines) 3: Customs Office (sends it to PCO for sale by anyone) and 4: Surplus (keeps stock planetside awaiting owner pickup for wholesale in say Jita).

Lifeless worlds should require the importing of food for anything beyond basic population. Hydroponic farms could be one option, but require energy and space that could be otherwise devoted to extracting more goods. Ambitious players could build up teeming factory cities pumping out vast profit on barren worlds as would be usurpers try to chip away at them by having DUST teams working to secure the food supply (or energy supply) and either gouge or strangle the enterprise. So in theory, you could run several PI colonies with very little management, but could easily win up running on a deficit if others gain an monopoly on a much needed resource. Alternatively, supplies can be freightered in and fueled much like a POS, but with far greater storage capacity.

Also the option of using PI to open manufacturing slots instead of exporting anything should be an option to give a much needed boost to low-end nullsec industry.

TL:DR

But whoever thought terraforming is a cool idea, and plausible, made a very bad proposal. That would ruin immersion in this game to the same extent as time travel would.

Terraforming is just a hypothesis, so assuming it's doable, even in far future with vary advanced technology, is far fetched.

If the planet's orbit is such that it can't support life, nothing can be done. Otherwise, amount of energy required for terraforming would be enormous, and the results would be dubious. Imagine transporting mass of the whole atmosphere of one planetary body to Mars, transporting too enormous amount of water and engineering climate change just to find out that gravity is still to low, and though life can exist, it's uncomfortable, the least, for humans to live there.

End of the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars

You would use asteroids in the belt to impact Mars and create dust to heat up the climate to start with.... this is a 100 thousand times more likely to be doable then FTL.

My point was that it really is not that far fetched, it's just the magnitude of the effort not the technology.

Uh... this is the future. There are spaceships. There is artificial gravity. These problems ARE solvable.

It IS a valid point that people should probably not be able to easily change around planet types at whim... 'terraforming' a gas giant, in particular, is a fairly ridiculous idea... but that said, there's some validity to letting people tweak the climate a little within the window of what a given planet type allows.

Ill post an answer now.

Empires are much more powerful that any player corp will ever be in the game (at least, game lore will never be different), they only tolerate corp sov because it's currently convenient, much like British and Dutch tolerated sovereignty of historical trading companies in the far east just until it bwas useful.

Cloning will not always remain privilege of small number of rich capsuleers belong to. When the time comes capsuleer corps will be outlawed and system they hold sovereignty on will be claimed by Empires.

(of course we'll not ever play in that era of Eve, for obvious reasons).

Now do you really believe Empires would allow capsuleer corps to mess with, in essence, their planets whose use capsulerrs pay with isk?

And on top of it, I couldn't believe player corporation could wield enough financial resources for such a big project. Technology don't exist yet in the world of Eve, ugly retcon is possible, but first to use it wouldn't be the players. They wouldn't have the money to do so.

And on the top of all, why? Terraforming doesn't give you content you can't get in another, better way. In the same way if Star Trek franchise could just let Enterprise go, and introduce another ship with a different name, though maybe of identical or similar make, ugly time travel wouldn't be needed.

tl:dr got you on this point, we actually already covered it. By cannon (as per either The Burning Life or The Empyrean Age novels) terraforming is possible in Eve, just not widely done. In the book, it was done by Korako Kosakami, aka The Rabbit, head of the Guristas.

A better known example is Caldari Prime. There are more in the Evelopedia too.

But as a pod pilot, it should be out of reach. Alliances on a scale of the Empires, sure, maybe. But smaller than that? Forget it.

Somewhat off topic but what is a good start to reading the back story of Eve? Are there any books?

I have only read the first couple posts so far but this is some amazing stuff, I will give further thoughts when I finish reading it all but so far so very very good!