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Josef Djugashvilis
#41 - 2012-06-10 06:28:10 UTC
I only installed Windows 7 six months ago, so unless W8 offers something exceptional to improve Eve performance on my desk-top pc, I will give it a miss.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-06-10 07:11:46 UTC
Vivian Mengloi wrote:
As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.

Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade.



Some free feedback. If it wasn't on the machine, I wasn't using it. Make a gaming OS and I might buy it.
Callum Jensen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-07-20 10:34:56 UTC
I installed the Windows 8 Consumer preview 2 days ago, and everything works great. Or it did!

Now, I can't claim to be a PC expert and understand the deeper elements, but I do know my mouse from my modem! Lol

Last night I noticed a couple of strange anomalies - like when docked in stations my character had no torso - it was completely transparent. Also system crashed on me a few times when flying in space (usually when in warp).

I have a fairly decent graphics card (Geforce 560TI OC) so wouldn't expect it to be too overwhelmed playing EVE. I also downloaded the latest drivers for my card from Geforce.com but this hasnt really helped at all.

I do have to admit that EVE is the only game I've installed and tried to play since putting W8 on. But if it's not going to be stable I'll have to revert to W7.

Have to admit though, in general I am loving W8. I'll definately be buying it when it's launched officially!
Charlie Jacobson
#44 - 2012-07-20 11:12:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Jacobson
In the first preview version of Windows 8 there was the ability to disable the Metro UI with a simple registry entry. They removed this option, however. Not the best call considering the Metro UI is designed for touch screens. How many of you have touch screens for your desktop PCs? I tried getting used to it, but it was hopelessly awkward to use that **** with a mouse and keyboard.

That being said pretty much everything that runs on Windows 7 will run on Windows 8 with very few exceptions.

I support James 315 and the New Order of Highsec
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#45 - 2012-07-20 11:16:56 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
Vivian Mengloi wrote:
As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.

Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade.



Some free feedback. If it wasn't on the machine, I wasn't using it. Make a gaming OS and I might buy it.


nice cleavage.


yea, i didnt read this thread, but i saw those boobs.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-07-20 11:44:18 UTC
Charlie Jacobson wrote:
In the first preview version of Windows 8 there was the ability to disable the Metro UI with a simple registry entry. They removed this option, however. Not the best call considering the Metro UI is designed for touch screens. How many of you have touch screens for your desktop PCs? I tried getting used to it, but it was hopelessly awkward to use that **** with a mouse and keyboard.

That being said pretty much everything that runs on Windows 7 will run on Windows 8 with very few exceptions.

The Metro UI can still be disabled, if you really want it to be. It takes getting used to, but it is better.

The Start menu is outdated. People don't use it to navigate through the folders, any more, because of the instantaneous search functionality. Just type what you want and press enter. Metro, however, has updating live tiles, retains the instant search, can fit more shortcuts on a screen, and each shortcut is easier to click. Use of the Start menu has diminished across all areas. Just look at the pretty tables and graphs in this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/03/evolving-the-start-menu.aspx

Anyway, the Start menu offers no real benefits over Metro. Turning off your computer takes one extra second of clicking in Metro, and that's about it. I forgive that because of the something like 2x faster boot times across every single situation, though. Speaking of which, Windows 8 just has improvements in every single area of the operating system. You can pause file copy and delete jobs now. Something I've never noticed was lacking from Windows 7. Things like that.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-07-20 11:49:06 UTC
Windows 8 is Windows 7 with an unbelievably stupid desktop front end on it. I played with it at work for a hour or so and found it to be fantastically crap.

I'm sticking with Windows 7 for now.
Slutty Underwear
Ephesians trading and farming
Memento Moriendo
#48 - 2012-07-20 12:09:40 UTC
It always makes me giggle when folks go on about boot times. Who really cares if it takes an extra 10 seconds to boot your PC? I am more than happy for my 2 minute boot time. Because I know 100% my Pc is going too work 100% for the next 2 weeks. Boot time means nothing folks. Stability is what counts. Cool
Anubis Star
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-07-20 12:32:15 UTC
eve works fine, in Fact everything works a bit faster than on win7. But that is the only benefit of win8, dual screen metro apps is horror as much as every other ****** inovation they implemented.
Othran
Route One
#50 - 2012-07-20 12:39:37 UTC
100 days left to come up with a believable explanation for Metro.....

Tiles® 8 will kill MS and if that doesn't do it then Orifice 2013 surely will.

MS posted their first ever quarterly loss yesterday. It won't be their last....
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-07-20 12:43:58 UTC
Slutty Underwear wrote:
It always makes me giggle when folks go on about boot times. Who really cares if it takes an extra 10 seconds to boot your PC? I am more than happy for my 2 minute boot time. Because I know 100% my Pc is going too work 100% for the next 2 weeks. Boot time means nothing folks. Stability is what counts. Cool

Then you'll be interested to know that a few months ago Microsoft released a report showing a strong correlation between total PC uptime and crashes. You do need to shut down every now and then. Then you'll need to boot.

Much more importantly, however, boot always counts for portable devices.
You can never have enough battery life for your notebook, and leaving it on standby for a day is a good way cut the life down. I'm happy with my 8 second boot time.

Also, Metro was mathematically proven to be awesome, using heatmaps, percentages, and lots of charts Cool
Funnily enough, I find that more experienced PC users are accepting Metro, rather than remaining afraid of change, as it often the case. The young, instant gratification, short attention span folks seem to be the ones unwilling to learn. The same fuss actually happened when the start menu was introduced.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#52 - 2012-07-20 12:49:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
DarkAegix wrote:
Anyway, the Start menu offers no real benefits over Metro.
It offers the benefit of never blobbing up your screen with hideous swaths of coloured blotches when all you want to do is start a program. Metro is outdated by the same functionality that makes the Start menu outdated.

…if it could be reduced to a Quicksllver/Alfred/Spotlight-like search field that pops up down in the corner, then it would be awesome. Taking over the screen with unrelated and irrelevant nonsense never is.
Nikodiemus
Ganja Clade
Shadow Cartel
#53 - 2012-07-20 12:59:04 UTC
People can have nerd-rage pissing contests all they want but from a consumer standpoint never buy an operating system when it comes out. Wait until most of the problems are solved and patched until updating from your current (and more stable) OS.
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#54 - 2012-07-20 14:06:49 UTC
Fannie Maes wrote:
Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95...


This 98, XP, W7....W10

Empire, the next new world order.
Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-07-20 14:33:09 UTC
Real men write their own DX and win32 wrappers around Eve to run in Linux. What's Windows?
Britilio Sandaris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-07-20 15:48:01 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I just ran the compatibility report for Win8, it says Eve will run fine, in fact the only thing I have that isn't usable is MS security essentials... "


MS Security Essentials is rolled into Windows 8. You don't have to install it, it's just there. (or more to the point, it's in windows defender)

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-security/how-do-i-keep-windows-8-release-preview-secure/acd2bfea-ed36-401e-9050-f2fe4212ecf3
Charlie Jacobson
#57 - 2012-07-20 15:50:26 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
Anyway, the Start menu offers no real benefits over Metro.
It offers the benefit of never blobbing up your screen with hideous swaths of coloured blotches when all you want to do is start a program. Metro is outdated by the same functionality that makes the Start menu outdated.

…if it could be reduced to a Quicksllver/Alfred/Spotlight-like search field that pops up down in the corner, then it would be awesome. Taking over the screen with unrelated and irrelevant nonsense never is.


My thoughts exactly! I admit that I only use the start menu for instant searching, but it's convenient because it doesn't cover my entire screen while I use it. Those "smart" tiles in Metro showed only completely irrelevant garbage like internet explorer, a weather report, and every other program I never use.

I support James 315 and the New Order of Highsec
doogymoogy
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#58 - 2012-08-20 12:32:14 UTC
interSTELLA555 wrote:
I am haveing serious issues, my graphics card is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, when I open the screen the graphics are fine for a few seconds, afterwards, the screen is suffers from significant large triangles in the middle of the graphical display. It seems like a rendering error, probably because Win 8 is not offically supported. I will upload screens in a bit, also EvE worked fine in Win 7 on the same machine... I shouldn't have freakin updated ..... grr....


Hey I wonder if you were ever able to fix this issue as I have just experienced the same thing with my secondary computer...
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#59 - 2012-08-20 12:47:09 UTC
Hopefully I can skip win8, like I did with Vista and ME

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.
HxChippiewill
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-08-20 12:56:30 UTC
Merovee wrote:
Fannie Maes wrote:
Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95...


This 98, XP, W7....W10


Actually there's 2000 and ME between 98 and XP and both of those were terrible.