EVE General Discussion

I hate dumbing down the game trend, but this change is actually for better.

Didn't worry so much about the missile name changes. They are easier now.

The change of the Assault missile launcher is very annoying because the new name will not show up if "launcher" is searched.

The prop mods... meh. Annoying, but not inhibitory.

Obviously it isn't dumbed down enough or we wouldn't have posts like the OPs.

OP hates having simple names for items? Misses the old days of showing info to figure out how what the hell the difference between one implant and another is? Change your language setting!

Why care about knowing what ammunition is being shoved into your turrets when you can hope that случайные русские слова will be just the thing you need! Since really, things can't be fun until you make them needlessly complicated.

To increase your fun value, try squirting vinegar into your eyes every five minutes. Feel the burning sting of entertainment!

No, what creates more work is the 3rd-party developers' bad coding practices, and guess what? That additional work is their own fault for not using proper identifiers to begin with.

Judging from few past posts... I find it quite surprising that you are so well committed to support this shallow renaming campaign. To be honest was expecting much more deeper vision, judgement and suggestion from your part. Usually you come with much better arguments. Bit disappointed now.

I may be direct, rude and write plenty of crap about stuff I don't know anything about. However I am also willing to change my mind if the facts and general information about the topic point to another direction. Unfortunately so far very few things what I've seen people writing truly justify naming changes over the other options.

namely: giving access to additional tools, making meta levels visible in icons or/and in various other places, improving compare tool, improving market, adding tool tips, improving search tool so that you can search for example "kinetic, missile, light" or "railgun, large, meta4"

Instead of making the game more interesting and giving longer life cycle because of longer learning curve, the chosen solution is to go the easy way and nerf the names which have been in game since day 1. It is pretty much the same solution than taking the english dictionary and writing it over because it sounds like a good idea.

Many posts support name changes because it is difficult to tell meta level. Many posts support name changes because the actual name doesn't really even tell what the item does. I dare to say that after the naming changes people still go to info window to look what the meta level is. They still get confused with the items. They may be able to tell little better what some implants do, but they still go to info window.

Most things what people expect to get from naming change can really only be provided by improving the game, not by changing the names. Names are not the source why items are hard to learn. I bet that new player who goes to market would have much clearer vision about item groups if they were sorted and labelled by meta level. New names will help that fellow very little. Optional tool tips would be really handy. They should be enabled by default but old timers should be able to hide them under some short cut key. So on and so on...

Finally I just want to add, that there have been new players who have addressed the fact, that looting plenty of randomly named crap is much more entertaining and rewarding than looting some same item with one alternative index word.

The 3rd party software is just part of issue and it creates loads of work - however it is not the actual heart of the issue. Hopefully you understand it now.

Better names are a good thing. The proposed names are horrible and lacks fantasy and thus these names are bad.

Yep... I think this is the part where we disagree the most.

I believe that all the "other options" should be done first and after those entire naming campaign should be reviewed. I honestly believe that very few names really need changing. The ones which may do come from random item groups and mostly from implant section. I do agree that certain items like mwd and ab had issues getting mixed, but those too could have been solved with 1 word change or something. Change in those went too far. Missiles had absolutely no need for any changes.

With meta levels on icons/market groups, meta level tab in hangar enabled by default and optional tool tips for items would have solved so much more and caused much less unhappiness. Have you calculated how many people have requested stuff like this in these threads? Top contributor is the one which is in game already but people just don't know about it.

But yea - I see your viewpoint and thank about good answer. Sometimes people just can't agree about everything :)

CCP's current schedule seems to run around "what is cheap, fast and little thing"-first. I don't like the approach and the mentality. Specially after I saw how they left the neocom project like nothing happened.

I'm going to miss the old nomenclature.

A future of..

Limited 200mm Plates
Limited Kinetic Armour Hardner
Limited 220mm Cannon
Limited Damage Control
Limited 150mm Rail Gun
etc etc etc

Just sounds so dull and well...limited.

Standardisation might sound great but what you tend to end up with is something that's just that: standard. Not exceptional, enigmatic, fascinating, perplexing, emotive, thrilling or exceptional.

Its just standard.

C.

Just going to copy/paste my response from the other post about this idiocy.

"Are you really such a mental invalid that you can't handle a name change. Does CCP need to implement a phonetic reader in the game that will slowly spell out each word for you? Perhaps a voice analyzer so you can slowly slur the words, "Ay aww want some miscles and stuffs..." and the game can just figure it out for you."