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What happened to the overview font?

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-03-02 20:26:56 UTC
H3llb0und wrote:
I think I found out what is wrong.

@ 2560 x 1440 and UI scaling @ 100%

With FULL SCREEN setting I get this:
http://i44.tinypic.com/5wwh2r.jpg
Notice that fonts and the UI itself looks a bit off.

With FIXED WINDOW setting:
http://i42.tinypic.com/rruw08.jpg
I get this crisp and perfect fonts and UI.

Is it a driver setting? Or is it the game engine that does this?
I am running an AMD 6970


Does it actually look like this in the game or did those jpeg images get "blurred" because the quality wasn't set to perfect 10?

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Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#42 - 2012-03-03 01:52:35 UTC
Bump. I replied with what Punkturis requested then received no direct response, only a snide squiggly line face.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#43 - 2012-03-03 08:59:55 UTC
There is nothing wrong with the font, not in game or in your screenshot.

If there was, you should file a bug report and not whine on the forums.

Just look at H3llb0und's screenshot, that is what a real problem looks like. There is a definite scaling issue.

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H3llb0und
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-03-03 10:07:57 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:

Does it actually look like this in the game or did those jpeg images get "blurred" because the quality wasn't set to perfect 10?


I saved the jpegs with maximum quality in Photoshop.
Tinypic might have compressed the images. but the main thing here is the fonts and the UI lines, and they look like this in game.

On the second screenshot with the fixed window setting the UI and the fonts look perfect for me.
Korah Arnelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-03-03 10:36:24 UTC
H3llb0und wrote:
I think I found out what is wrong.

@ 2560 x 1440 and UI scaling @ 100%

With FULL SCREEN setting I get this:
http://i44.tinypic.com/5wwh2r.jpg
Notice that fonts and the UI itself looks a bit off.

With FIXED WINDOW setting:
http://i42.tinypic.com/rruw08.jpg
I get this crisp and perfect fonts and UI.

Is it a driver setting? Or is it the game engine that does this?
I am running an AMD 6970


What catalyst version? I have a 6870 running 12.1
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-03-03 11:49:20 UTC
H3llb0und wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:

Does it actually look like this in the game or did those jpeg images get "blurred" because the quality wasn't set to perfect 10?


I saved the jpegs with maximum quality in Photoshop.
Tinypic might have compressed the images. but the main thing here is the fonts and the UI lines, and they look like this in game.

On the second screenshot with the fixed window setting the UI and the fonts look perfect for me.

Yea... most likely either driver or hardware related problem then.

In history I have experienced corrupted graphics with certain resolutions while the card has been working mostly fine in some others. All I say really that this is possible so don't spend all your efforts trying to find software solution if one doesn't seem to be found.

I have even had very old graphics card which managed to open one random game perfectly fine but all fonts looked like Chinese hieroglyphs and half of them were missing :) Anything is possible.

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Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#47 - 2012-03-03 18:07:30 UTC
:| I se my thread has been derailed by a tech issue rather than the issue of the font itself. Argh.

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H3llb0und
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-03-05 01:57:26 UTC  |  Edited by: H3llb0und
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
:| I se my thread has been derailed by a tech issue rather than the issue of the font itself. Argh.


I'm sorry, but I didn't want to create another thread for this.
And I actually thought you were having a similar problem to mine.

The font itself is very readable, maybe even more than the old one. Can't really compare as I was away from the game for a while.

It would be great if CCP could give us more choice, like a few font types to choose from, complete control of the font size, kerning, bold not bold, shadow, contour. Like some subtitle players have...

But again, the current font is great.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#49 - 2012-03-05 06:58:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Misanth
The font looks good, but it's way too wide, overview is taking over the screen as it is now.

Mine looks like this right now, I warped to a random belt in a random system just to get the velocity etc showing: http://i.imgur.com/VHjMn.jpg
(the quality dropped a bit when I stored it as .jpg, it's not that blurry ingame)

* Font looks nice, the size of letters etc works out really good imho

* The scaling is horrible, you have to fiddle alot with sizing things up/down just to find something that suits your particular resolution, this is major issue, feels like CCP just tried it all on one standard resolution on one PC and settled with that setting. I might have extra issues myself because I play on something unusual like 1600x900 (it just happens to be quite nice when you want to try see 5+ clients at the same time, easy to overlap them without ruining too much quality).

* Spacing on the font is horrible as well. The overview is impossible to not get massively wide. I had to compromise on mine and make name colums a bit smaller than I want, just so it just won't take over the whole damn screen. Grr.

TL;DR I think OP has a point. And the common theme between most people posting complaints, seems to be that it's hard to find a setup/scaling that works good on your particular setup. I.e. the "scaling" isn't very much scaling at all, you have to play with the setting CCP wants, or bust.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-03-05 09:23:04 UTC
The train where issues with font were dealt left the station months ago and was very well handled by CCP Punkturis and her team. There was loads of problems in the start, but the improvements in the end product are something they can be proud of. Even maybe not being 110% perfect the font/scaling is still in state with what almost all players can agree with. You will not find much support to subject of this thread any longer.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#51 - 2012-03-05 10:40:16 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
The train where issues with font were dealt left the station months ago and was very well handled by CCP Punkturis and her team. There was loads of problems in the start, but the improvements in the end product are something they can be proud of. Even maybe not being 110% perfect the font/scaling is still in state with what almost all players can agree with. You will not find much support to subject of this thread any longer.


4/10

You're getting a bit experience, still quite bad at this tho.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-03-05 11:04:15 UTC
I directed that mainly to OP... you sir, mr Misanth - I have had blocked for ages already :)

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

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Katrina Bekers
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2012-03-05 15:31:20 UTC
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
:| I se my thread has been derailed by a tech issue rather than the issue of the font itself. Argh.

Hi Siigari.

I noticed that a few patches/updates/fixes ago, the overview turned on the "Small Font" option on its own.

Try and check if it's selected, and whether or not you like it that way. The settings is somewhere in the Overview Settings; IIRC in the Appearance tab.

Maybe it's turned on, and your "old" behavior is to just have it off.

Can't hurt to check.

<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>
Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#54 - 2012-03-05 16:29:00 UTC
Katrina, a few posts down I showed pictures of the large font and the small font. They have changed since the new font was instated.

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Razin
The Scope
#55 - 2012-03-05 17:05:05 UTC
Siigari Kitawa wrote:
Hold on uploading another image. Note this is the default 100% scaling ui.

http://siigarikitawa.com/images/newoverview2.jpg (small font) LOOK AT THOSE NINES

http://siigarikitawa.com/images/newoverview3.jpg (large font) WAY TOO LARGE (vertically)

CLEARLY you can see the numbers are much more narrow than my previous overview font, and it has the spacing above and below the characters is reduced versus my previous overview.

http://siigarikitawa.com/images/closecall.jpg

The new overview font is much more readable, in both sizes. Perhaps you just need to give it more time, or try and play with the ui scaling.
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#56 - 2012-03-06 16:56:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Spc One
I still think old font was much better.

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b414/CorryBasler1911/1.jpg

CCP can you please include both fonts in next release so player can choose which font to choose ?
Old or new, like you did with ship spinning (player can choose ship hangar or captain quarters)
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#57 - 2012-03-06 18:13:57 UTC
OMG that old font looks ****** :D

Look at those caps on the tab labels :DDD

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Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#58 - 2012-03-06 18:37:46 UTC
I prefer the old font.

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