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CCP : MACRO BANNINGS

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Jita Alt666
#21 - 2012-02-28 23:49:02 UTC
Tore Vest wrote:
Botters will be back tho.....
If CCP not doing anything with the way ppl rat/mine... Bear



I wish I was cool as you.
Endeavour Starfleet
#22 - 2012-02-28 23:52:24 UTC
This shows folks that the best solution to this issue on OUR end is hitting that report bot function. The more info CCP gets on these idiots. The better.
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-02-28 23:52:38 UTC
Could you ban botters more than once a year please.
Jita Alt666
#24 - 2012-02-28 23:56:08 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:


Yeah I know. I had just noticed the thread titles on other forums and wanted to be clear (I'll explain in the blog) that there's reason for timing that has nothing to do with Fanfest, which would insinuate that it's some kind of PR move. This is a tuning of an existing program that occurs regularly.


Looking forward to the dev blog. I personally think you should:
A: Remove all supercapitals, owned by players who have accounts caught in the net from the game world.
B: Confiscate without recompense and then recirculate PLEX that have been bought by players who have accounts caught in the net, back into the market at 75% of current market value.

Anyway keep up the good work.
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-02-28 23:56:44 UTC
ButthurtBotter wrote:
Now is there any lawyer or experienced member that might want to contribute in how we can argue this using the rules? If this a ban wave there is no specific investigation i guess so i think there is a way to argue this out or try anyway?


LOL! Botter tears, best tears. Yeah, argue that out dude.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#26 - 2012-02-28 23:58:04 UTC
Skeptical Muppet is skeptical. I seem to recall we were going to hear from CCP Sreegs a long time ago about security and botting and what little information came out was minimal and lacked content.

CCP: If you prove me wrong consider this an apology for doubting you, but understand my reluctance. I'm sure the finance department was holding a fairly large caliber gun to people's heads.

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Tore Vest
#27 - 2012-02-29 00:28:56 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:


Looking forward to the dev blog. I personally think you should:
A: Remove all supercapitals, owned by players who have accounts caught in the net from the game world.
B: Confiscate without recompense and then recirculate PLEX that have been bought by players who have accounts caught in the net, back into the market at 75% of current market value.

Anyway keep up the good work.

You sound bitter bro....
Did you loose anything ? Bear

No troll.

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
#28 - 2012-02-29 00:35:25 UTC
Thanks you Thanks you Thank you Big smile

Nice to see some action on the bot's and RMT'ers that are the cancer in Eve. Thanks for taking action, and if I have one thing to say, please make this a regular occurance.

We all know that once the two week bans are up they will be back in force. One idea I'd like to put forward is once an account is dinged for this, please ensure that the character can't be traded. It's been publicly stated on certain forums (not FHC the other one Blink) that once the ban is up they sell the char, open a new account and then buy a new one so the cycle starts again.

Remove the ISK and their ability to sell the char if you're not going to perma ban them, and hopefully we will see a large reduction in these cheating wankers.
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#29 - 2012-02-29 00:43:09 UTC
Chiggy W wrote:
Thanks you Thanks you Thank you Big smile

Nice to see some action on the bot's and RMT'ers that are the cancer in Eve. Thanks for taking action, and if I have one thing to say, please make this a regular occurance.

We all know that once the two week bans are up they will be back in force. One idea I'd like to put forward is once an account is dinged for this, please ensure that the character can't be traded. It's been publicly stated on certain forums (not FHC the other one Blink) that once the ban is up they sell the char, open a new account and then buy a new one so the cycle starts again.

Remove the ISK and their ability to sell the char if you're not going to perma ban them, and hopefully we will see a large reduction in these cheating wankers.


Suffice to say the knife's being twisted a bit more this time around. I'm still on vacation until Thursday so I can't commit to anything until then. Was in Amsterdam. Beautiful city!

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#30 - 2012-02-29 00:45:30 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
This shows folks that the best solution to this issue on OUR end is hitting that report bot function. The more info CCP gets on these idiots. The better.


How do you know if someone is a bot? Assuming he has a "regular" name and only mines for 2-3 hours a day, why would you think he is / he is not a bot?

It's a thought of mine, if people spam report bot, won't CCP get clogged in hundreds of time consuming investigations leading to nowhere?
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#31 - 2012-02-29 00:48:22 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Angel Lust wrote:
Let me guess.....
Only highsec booters taken ? Cool

Edit: A dead boot is a good boot tho.... P


We do not nor have we every discriminated based on location. Any insinuation otherwise is simply false.



Every? Freudian slip?

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CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#32 - 2012-02-29 01:00:29 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Angel Lust wrote:
Let me guess.....
Only highsec booters taken ? Cool

Edit: A dead boot is a good boot tho.... P


We do not nor have we every discriminated based on location. Any insinuation otherwise is simply false.



Every? Freudian slip?


I'm tired :(

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-02-29 01:03:15 UTC
Personally, I think this is too little, too late. There should've been a lot more done with bots years ago, and the end result of the ineffective anti-bot stance CCP has taken has lead to a hilarious inflation in the ships used, to the point where we see daily supers being ganked and just go "Sigh, really? Again? Don't they ever learn?!", and when we get pings of "titan tackled", I just go "meh, I can't even be bothered to log in for a titan kill anymore, it's no big deal".

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-02-29 01:19:20 UTC
what CCP should do is work on a long term plan where they come up with the absolute best botting software out there (they know their software, so they can get their botting software to work with it) and keep it running for a couple years. after it's been running for so long, it will have weeded out pretty much all the other botting teams out there. after this time, they've been tracking account usage and what links they have to other parts of the game. and once they have this comprehensive list of what is pretty much every bot out there they have the great purge where every account and all accounts linked to it are removed from the game. and depending on how thorough they want to be, block the IPs of the people that are botting (I know this can be avoided, but it would probably stop a lot of people.
Jita Alt666
#35 - 2012-02-29 01:19:20 UTC
Tore Vest wrote:
Jita Alt666 wrote:


Looking forward to the dev blog. I personally think you should:
A: Remove all supercapitals, owned by players who have accounts caught in the net from the game world.
B: Confiscate without recompense and then recirculate PLEX that have been bought by players who have accounts caught in the net, back into the market at 75% of current market value.

Anyway keep up the good work.

You sound bitter bro....
Did you loose anything ? Bear


I had a corp mate who lost a faction fit paladin to high sec gankers last week - the last assets of note (worth 3bil+) I lost were in 2009 - about the same time you lost lots of yours.
Keprie
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-02-29 01:25:23 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Personally, I think this is too little, too late. There should've been a lot more done with bots years ago, and the end result of the ineffective anti-bot stance CCP has taken has lead to a hilarious inflation in the ships used, to the point where we see daily supers being ganked and just go "Sigh, really? Again? Don't they ever learn?!", and when we get pings of "titan tackled", I just go "meh, I can't even be bothered to log in for a titan kill anymore, it's no big deal".



I completely agree, too little and *very* much too late.

This game was OPENLY botted for far too long. Even though other MMO's are botted probably botted much more than in eve, the way the unique player driven economy works it has such a pronounced and game changing effect in the long term. This temp ban will just cause the usual price spikes for a month(s) until it normalizes and then the same cycle next year when CCP decides to show everyone 'they are doing something' again.

It is the primary reason I stopped recommending eve anymore to friends because botting had become so commonplace.
Powers Sa
#37 - 2012-02-29 01:26:18 UTC
Chiggy W wrote:
Thanks you Thanks you Thank you Big smile

Nice to see some action on the bot's and RMT'ers that are the cancer in Eve. Thanks for taking action, and if I have one thing to say, please make this a regular occurance.

We all know that once the two week bans are up they will be back in force. One idea I'd like to put forward is once an account is dinged for this, please ensure that the character can't be traded. It's been publicly stated on certain forums (not FHC the other one Blink) that once the ban is up they sell the char, open a new account and then buy a new one so the cycle starts again.

Remove the ISK and their ability to sell the char if you're not going to perma ban them, and hopefully we will see a large reduction in these cheating wankers.

I would like them to still be able to sell a tengu pilot, but at a ultra reduced value (6 months for a solid tengu pilot from 0). Flag the accounts/transaction so we can see that they are bad people and then we can negotiate them down to rub salt in the wound. Help some players get cheaper ratters so they can afford to lose hilarious ships in pvp.

I personally just dropped $50 on that Buddy account thing for 6 months gameplay etc. I'm training up a dedicated tengu guy so I can afford to fly expensive bait ships. I have to say, I'm a huge fan of CCP's multibox/multiple client stance. It makes life easier, and you don't have to bot.

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Endeavour Starfleet
#38 - 2012-02-29 01:30:10 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
This shows folks that the best solution to this issue on OUR end is hitting that report bot function. The more info CCP gets on these idiots. The better.


How do you know if someone is a bot? Assuming he has a "regular" name and only mines for 2-3 hours a day, why would you think he is / he is not a bot?

It's a thought of mine, if people spam report bot, won't CCP get clogged in hundreds of time consuming investigations leading to nowhere?


Abusing report bot = ban. And many that get reported are obvious bots. Other folks use their experience to locate the harder to find ones and report them.
Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2012-02-29 02:07:52 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Tore Vest wrote:
Botters will be back tho.....
If CCP not doing anything with the way ppl rat/mine... Bear



I wish I was cool as you.


me too Sad
Raivi
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-02-29 02:19:43 UTC
Have to say the botter tears Aurora's been collecting made my day a bit brighter.

Hope you enjoyed Amsterdam Sreegs, looking forward to the dev blog.