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killed by amarr police in Sarum prime (1.0)
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Winston Kion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-02-28 21:46:28 UTC
Hi,

today, i've been shooted by Amarr Civil Service in Sarum Prime (1.0) with a security status > than -.2.0 (-1.96) and a good standing with all amarr corporation / amarr faction. (all > 1.0)
My badger was transporting lot of modules / components (> 150M ISK at Jita's price). I want to understand why i've been shooted by Amarr NPC and if someone got the same issue... i think it's a bug but i'm not sure :s

Thanks for your help

==== Killmail: (enjoy :D)====
Victim: Winston Kion
Corp: Astroya industrie
Alliance: Shadows of Damned
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Badger Mark II
System: Sarum Prime
Security: 1,0
Damage Taken: 3266

Involved parties:

Name: Amarr Surveillance General Major / Amarr Civil Service (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 3266

Destroyed items:

Hammerhead I (Cargo)
Sleeper Data Library, Qty: 14 (Cargo)
Shield Power Relay I (Cargo)
Caldari Navy Trauma Heavy Missile, Qty: 24 (Cargo)
Cynosural Field Generator I (Cargo)
Microcell Nanite Thermic Hardener I (Cargo)
True Sansha Silver Tag, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Small Rudimentary Concussion Bomb I (Cargo)
Focused Medium Beam Laser I (Cargo)
Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 38 (Cargo)
Logic Circuit, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Medium Cargohold Optimization I, Qty: 3
Contaminated Nanite Compound, Qty: 68 (Cargo)
Expanded Cargohold II, Qty: 3
Fried Interface Circuit, Qty: 41 (Cargo)
Sacred Manifesto, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Medium Inefficient Armor Repair Unit (Cargo)
Amarr Encryption Methods, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Sanshas Microwave S, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Ballistic Deflection Field I
Dual Heavy Afocal Pulse Maser I (Cargo)
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Brief Capacitor Overcharge I (Cargo)
Micro B88 Core Augmentation (Cargo)
Datacore - High Energy Physics, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Hydra F.O.F. Heavy Missile I, Qty: 4286 (Cargo)
Auxiliary Parts, Qty: 85 (Cargo)
Nanite Compound (Cargo)
True Sanshas Radio M (Cargo)
Xray M, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Gallente Fuel Block, Qty: 1030 (Cargo)
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II (Cargo)
Expanded Cargohold II (Cargo)
Microwave S (Cargo)
125mm Gatling AutoCannon I (Cargo)
Circular Logic (Cargo)
Invulnerability Field I
Faint Warp Disruptor I (Cargo)

Dropped items:

Datacore - Laser Physics (Cargo)
Medium Hull Repairer I (Cargo)
Photon Scattering Field II
Damaged Artificial Neural Network, Qty: 89 (Cargo)
Jury Rigging (Cargo)
Small Armor Repairer II (Cargo)
Cap Booster 25, Qty: 10 (Cargo)
Armor Plates, Qty: 59 (Cargo)
Mega Anode Particle Stream I (Cargo)
True Sansha Armor EM Hardener (Cargo)
Formation Layout, Qty: 6 (Cargo)
Small I-a Polarized Armor Regenerator (Cargo)
Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 90 (Cargo)
Small Shield Extender I
Neural Network Analyzer, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Cap Booster 75, Qty: 20 (Cargo)
True Sanshas Microwave S (Cargo)
Intact Armor Plates, Qty: 6 (Cargo)
Force Cable, Qty: 48 (Cargo)
Current Pump, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Oxygen, Qty: 26315 (Cargo)
Sanshas Radio S (Cargo)
Micro 'Vigor' Core Augmentation (Cargo)
Thermal Exhaust System I (Cargo)
Artificial Neural Network, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Reactor Control Unit I (Cargo)
Hobgoblin I, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
1MN MicroWarpdrive I
True Sanshas Radio S (Cargo)
Micro Circuit (Cargo)
True Sansha Brass Tag (Cargo)
Datacore - Nanite Engineering, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Warp Core Stabilizer I (Cargo)
Inertia Stabilizers I (Cargo)
True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener (Cargo)
Interface Circuit, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Valkyrie II, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
ECCM - Radar I (Cargo)
True Sansha Copper Tag, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Defective Current Pump, Qty: 63 (Cargo)
Energy Weapon Rigging, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Tripped Power Circuit, Qty: 41 (Cargo)
Small YF-12a Smartbomb (Cargo)
Carrelle Rouppon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-02-28 21:50:49 UTC
Wish I got on that...

Without operations like mine it would be impossible for certain Alliances to conduct a respectable war. There are three basic types of arms deal: white, being legal, black, being illegal, and my personal favorite, gray.

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-02-28 21:53:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Derath Ellecon
It's "shot by"

That's all I can help with though. No clue on the rest.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#4 - 2012-02-28 22:00:09 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
It's "shot by"

That's all I can help with though. No clue on the rest.



Beat me to THIS

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2012-02-28 22:09:59 UTC
Where you late on any parking tickets? That happens to me all the time.
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-02-28 22:14:55 UTC
-1.96 got rounded up. It happen to me in my ratting proteus petition it. I got my ship back minus what was looted.
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#7 - 2012-02-28 22:23:16 UTC
Katarina Reid wrote:
-1.96 got rounded up. It happen to me in my ratting proteus petition it. I got my ship back minus what was looted.


^^ This. Just petition, and it should get fixed. I just wish i was there in a rifter to shoot you once as you went down Sad

Solo Rifter since 2009
Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-28 22:32:32 UTC
Ahrieman wrote:
Katarina Reid wrote:
-1.96 got rounded up. It happen to me in my ratting proteus petition it. I got my ship back minus what was looted.


^^ This. Just petition, and it should get fixed. I just wish i was there in a rifter to shoot you once as you went down Sad

And get concorded, hurrdurr.
Jack Traynor
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-02-28 22:57:43 UTC
You got shotted by Amarr Customs? Maybe they new something that we only just learned about you...
george harries
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-02-28 23:01:44 UTC
Jack Traynor wrote:
You got shotted by Amarr Customs? Maybe they knew something that we only just learned about you...



There, fixed that for you - if taking the p i s s out of spelling /grammar - best to be accurate yourself eh ??!
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-28 23:08:28 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
Ahrieman wrote:
Katarina Reid wrote:
-1.96 got rounded up. It happen to me in my ratting proteus petition it. I got my ship back minus what was looted.


^^ This. Just petition, and it should get fixed. I just wish i was there in a rifter to shoot you once as you went down Sad

And get concorded, hurrdurr.



Trading a single rifter for the ability to scoop that loot is not a bad deal.


Also, the isk win/loss ratio would be very good.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#12 - 2012-02-28 23:39:35 UTC
Little question : did you rat before ?

Protip from a C+Pirate : your ss is not really updated until you log off.
Kill a few NPC bs, get over -2.00 (-1,98 is fine and not "round up" or anything, I tried it), log off, log in, welcome back to highsec.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !
Ami Hayashi
Arcadia Technologies
#13 - 2012-02-29 03:02:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ami Hayashi
They didn't like you.



Reppyk wrote:
Little question : did you rat before ?

Protip from a C+Pirate : your ss is not really updated until you log off.
Kill a few NPC bs, get over -2.00 (-1,98 is fine and not "round up" or anything, I tried it), log off, log in, welcome back to highsec.



But probably what he said.
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#14 - 2012-02-29 05:39:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Mehashi 'Kho
Reppyk wrote:
Little question : did you rat before ?

Protip from a C+Pirate : your ss is not really updated until you log off.
Kill a few NPC bs, get over -2.00 (-1,98 is fine and not "round up" or anything, I tried it), log off, log in, welcome back to highsec.

This seems to be somewhat true. I regularly bounce in and out of the ability to enter certain sec levels. After ratting up from say -3 to -1.98 if i fly through a 1.0 in my pod i will still see the criminal message. If I relog I am able to enter 1.0 happily. On the other hand if I overshoot some way, say rat up to -1.7 then i can get into 1.0 with no problems without having to relog, it only seems to effect me within 0.1 sec of what i need, which would point to the sec being rounded up if you dont relog.

So I would amend the statement to say "your ss is not really updated accurately until you log off."

This is only my experience of the last few months, I have no idea of the actual mathematics or formula around it all.

*edited, was tired and wrote 0.9 instead of 1.0, fixed.
Winston Kion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-02-29 07:21:28 UTC
hi,

thanks for your answers ^^ (and sorry for my english :P), i rat a lot of time yesterday and i didn't log off, so maybe you are true...
Do you think i have a chance to get my items back if i do a petition or not :s?
Highland Cream
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-02-29 08:00:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Highland Cream
Winston Kion wrote:
hi,

thanks for your answers ^^ (and sorry for my english :P), i rat a lot of time yesterday and i didn't log off, so maybe you are true...
Do you think i have a chance to get my items back if i do a petition or not :s?


Try a petition, the worst they can do is say no.
Istyn
Freight Club
#17 - 2012-02-29 09:52:16 UTC
They never reimburse anything that dropped, but you might get the rest.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#18 - 2012-02-29 11:50:51 UTC
Mehashi 'Kho wrote:
This seems to be somewhat true. I regularly bounce in and out of the ability to enter certain sec levels. After ratting up from say -3 to -1.98 if i fly through a 1.0 in my pod i will still see the criminal message. If I relog I am able to enter 1.0 happily. On the other hand if I overshoot some way, say rat up to -1.7 then i can get into 1.0 with no problems without having to relog, it only seems to effect me within 0.1 sec of what i need, which would point to the sec being rounded up if you dont relog.

So I would amend the statement to say "your ss is not really updated accurately until you log off."

This is only my experience of the last few months, I have no idea of the actual mathematics or formula around it all.

*edited, was tired and wrote 0.9 instead of 1.0, fixed.
In one of my attempt, I waited 3 hours before trying to get back in highsec. My poor&lovely&gentle dominix made it in structure.
Oops

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !
Waylan Yutani
SkyLark Insurgency
#19 - 2012-03-06 23:44:50 UTC
"It has probably to do with the fact that you were below -2 CONCORD standing a while ago. I would reccomend waiting until after downtime before you venture into 1.0 space.
please be aware you run the risk of attracting CONCORD police officers in high sec until after downtime."

official response to my deimos loss in yulai after evading the 5.0 for full ten minutes before giving up :-)
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#20 - 2012-03-07 00:33:29 UTC
Yup for future reference, log off, log back on, sec status will be treated properly after ratting.

Petition and you'll get all modules that weren't dropped/ship reimbursed. Has happened to me and a corpie, annoying as hell, and usually an expensive lesson to learn.
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