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I am Starting A petition For Eve To make a LINUX Client!
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Nocturrne Primitive
Evil Young Flesh
#61 - 2012-05-06 10:48:39 UTC
I Vote Yes to a Linux Client! Actually, any Linux support would be very nice, as I am running it in wine.
Fascist Jockitch
ELUSH Rehab
#62 - 2012-05-06 10:50:53 UTC
Yes, please give us some Linux support. I am using Ubuntu with an Nvidia GPU.
Venus ThighTrap
Evil Young Flesh
#63 - 2012-05-06 10:52:27 UTC
Yes, please for Linux support.
Pom Agrant
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2012-05-06 10:53:46 UTC
I vote YES for a Linux client. Thx
Professor Bonehead
Evil Young Flesh
#65 - 2012-05-06 10:55:05 UTC
Yes for a Linux client. I've been using it, painfully, for years.
T3RMi3
Maza Nostra
#66 - 2012-05-08 13:21:11 UTC
I Vote Yes to a NATIVE Linux Client. Thanks
Calleo Vaillis
M.R.A
#67 - 2012-05-09 16:50:50 UTC
I Vote Yes to a NATIVE Linux Client. Thanks
Katrina Bekers
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#68 - 2012-05-10 15:58:47 UTC
*Yawn*

Can't really recognize a dead horse when you see one, huh?

<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>
Linsel Harvnor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2012-05-10 23:44:16 UTC
Sometimes you have to beat a dead horse a WHOLE LOT before there's any hope of bringing it back to life.

I'd love native Linux support.

Failing that, I'd love some sort of official support of running EVE under Wine. The unofficial support we have right now seems to be working fairly well, however....
Jakob Hok
Against the Machines
#70 - 2012-05-12 04:40:05 UTC
I Vote Yes to a NATIVE Linux Client. Thanks
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#71 - 2012-05-15 07:29:18 UTC
Well, I would like to see the following, as I just said, Bu-Bye to Windows (typing this on my new installed 12.04 Ubuntu laptop and when my ASUS gets back I am pretty sure that is going to Ubuntu also, was going to windows 7 64-bit, but I am just not at all happy with the whole MS/Windows thing anymore...

Would love a WINE (HOW TO)

And would love to see any assistance in making Linux stable and workable.

MS/W8 = they finally "Jumped the shark" - I think MS and Apple are both due to decline... MS due to crappy product, and Apple due to their financial situation, they are going to start to lose holders as the stock has topped out, and with that less working capital...

Anyway +1 for any pro-Linux move.
Fantu
ERPI
#72 - 2012-05-15 15:28:32 UTC
I Vote Yes to a native Linux Client or at least native launcher/updater, help to improve wine support, and game stability (last is platform independent).

For some years now my servers are just Linux, partial for work but I'm finally to migrate completely to Linux with Ubuntu 12.04.
Only one computer has been with windows 7 but since the increase of good native games for Linux and the continued disappointment of windows for stability, efficiency and safety.
Most likely go on to linux within one year also with gaming, I hope that Eve will be functioning well, even on multiple instances.
Jane Baker
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#73 - 2012-05-19 17:17:42 UTC
I agree on the WINE testing end of things. A Linux native client is far more work for them than simply testing their product with WINE. It is far too much to ask and it is not profitable for CCP to rewrite all graphics code. An easier path to running it with WINE would be plenty good for me. Playing EVE has been hell for me, as I run into no end of trouble every time there is an update of either WINE or EVE. I would much appreciate dedicated WINE testing from CCP.
Publius Victrix
Gloria In Excelsis Deo
#74 - 2012-05-20 19:32:05 UTC
I'm not sure how useful it is to post this, but I'd very much like to see something better as well. I'm voting with my feet right now and staying with CCP, but all it'll take is a period of a week where I can't run the game and I'll change my vote.

That said, I'm very flexible with regard to how support for GNU/Linux is implemented. As much as I'd love a native client, I'd be content with Wine being a first-class support target.
Miracle Chipmunk Otsito
Poor Man Inc
#75 - 2012-06-01 08:33:44 UTC
I would love to see a native Linux client, but we all know that's WAY too much work. I'd at least like to see a small group of devs dedicated to WINE compatibility. Only 2 or 3 devs should be enough.
Khi3l
The Phoenix Revival
#76 - 2012-06-01 11:14:36 UTC
Miracle Chipmunk Otsito wrote:
I would love to see a native Linux client, but we all know that's WAY too much work. I'd at least like to see a small group of devs dedicated to WINE compatibility. Only 2 or 3 devs should be enough.


Only one should be...

Before the launcher, all worked fine but now, we have to deal with wine config everyday (now patches are everyday), passing our time switching dll from b,n to n,b... THIS MUST BE FIXED !

CQ doesn't work on Linux, it shouldn't be so difficult to make it work... THIS MUST BE FIXED !

That's all.
Bent Barrel
#77 - 2012-06-01 11:51:46 UTC
Khi3l wrote:
Miracle Chipmunk Otsito wrote:
I would love to see a native Linux client, but we all know that's WAY too much work. I'd at least like to see a small group of devs dedicated to WINE compatibility. Only 2 or 3 devs should be enough.


Only one should be...

Before the launcher, all worked fine but now, we have to deal with wine config everyday (now patches are everyday), passing our time switching dll from b,n to n,b... THIS MUST BE FIXED !

CQ doesn't work on Linux, it shouldn't be so difficult to make it work... THIS MUST BE FIXED !

That's all.


I don't have to switch ... works with one profile ...

also you can create application specifi dll overrides .....
Zo Khamez
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#78 - 2012-06-13 16:04:57 UTC
I agree with the OP... I would like to see a Native Linux client... one that does not use WINE...

I am a die hard Linux fan and also a computer programmer in RL. I would love to have an opportunity at writing a Native Linux client... and if it interests CCP, I would love to be hired by CCP to write the Native Linux client for them. :)
Zo Khamez
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2012-06-13 16:14:51 UTC
Zo Khamez wrote:
I agree with the OP... I would like to see a Native Linux client... one that does not use WINE...

I am a die hard Linux fan and also a computer programmer in RL. I would love to have an opportunity at writing a Native Linux client... and if it interests CCP, I would love to be hired by CCP to write the Native Linux client for them. :)




I have at one point, multi-boxed 8 separate accounts concurrently within the game (a mining fleet, whoohoo). I had set the resolution to 1280x512 and spread them out evenly over 4 monitors (all 1280x1024). Then I simply interacted with each client in order to perform the work of a whole mining fleet (mining, hauling, security). A lot of work, but very fun too!

I have a few great ideas about how I think the Native Linux Client should work:
1. The linux kernel now supports KSM (Kernel Samepage Merging) This feature was originally intended for KVM use. Each EVE client consumes roughly 800MB to 1GB of RAM. It would be great if all the "static data" (models, ships, stations, characters, etc) would use the KSM to keep only one copy of all that data in RAM... the "dynamic data" (what you are currently doing in EVE, wallet, inventory, etc) would be unique to each client. This would be a huge improvement to memory consumption. I suspect that this could also be done (and benefit all the other clients to) using IPC or shared memory.

2. If CCP takes a page out of the World of Warcraft book... perhaps it could be possible to switch between DirectX and OpenGL rendering libraries. I'm not 100% sure how they do it now, but I believe that CCP can do the same thing. I am not afraid to undertake the challenge of this.

Some of the most difficult challenges are consequently the most rewarding too. I hope CCP seriously considers hiring me for this task!

Thanks.
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#80 - 2012-06-13 22:19:15 UTC
WoW does OpenGL and DirectX natively because Blizzard fully supports Mac OSX. Mac is OpenGL for its rendering. It would likely be trivial for Blizzard to support Linux for all their games that run on OSX. Especially considering OSX is a highly modified *nix operating system.


How does EVE support OSX? is it somehow emulated or is it using OGL natively?

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