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New dev blog: The Eve Online Launcher: T-minus not that much

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Shandir
EVE University
Ivy League
#21 - 2012-02-28 18:40:36 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
Good stuff... but I would like to offer a couple of suggestions that would turn this from 'good' into 'fantastic:

* Saving the login details of user passwords. Don't mention security, please, if someone wanted to steal my password and had code execution access they're much more likely to go after my EvE Gate login details :)

* Being able to automatically hook in to an *extremely limited* API vCode for each account that I successfully log into, and which lasts so long as the account password remains the same. It should allow the launcher to show me a list of all of my characters (on every account I've logged in with). If they have mail it should display the appropriate icon, and it should show their current training.

Clicking on one should use stored credentials to jump into that account. Yeah obviously there needs to be a way to not save details, or to forget them. But I imagine 98% of us play on our own machines.

Oh yeah, and please, for the love of christ.... log which clients are connected and give us a warning:

"Just a heads up... you were probably trying to log in to your carrier alt, but in reality you're about to log in to the same account as you're currently PvPing in... it's going to get a proxy closed notice, and you're going to feel really really silly when your command ship gets blown to pieces while you're reconnecting... Are you sure you want to continue?"


These would be quite awesome. Yes security with the saved passwords would be an issue, so perhaps there's a way around that problem? I also wouldn't mind entering a password once, which is stored for the duration the launcher is open, and sent to the clients for auto-launch.

I especially like the idea that we could have all characters visible on the launcher, and we simply click the character we want to log in. (I'd personally like to have only one account that has multiple skill queues and simultaneous connections - managing many accounts is a pain)
Ethino
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-02-28 18:47:50 UTC
And now you can start making a PROPER logout feature rather then restarting your client ENDLESS times [pokerface]
Maevra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-02-28 18:53:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Maevra
Shandir wrote:
Sentient Blade wrote:
Good stuff... but I would like to offer a couple of suggestions that would turn this from 'good' into 'fantastic:

* Saving the login details of user passwords. Don't mention security, please, if someone wanted to steal my password and had code execution access they're much more likely to go after my EvE Gate login details :)

[...]


These would be quite awesome. Yes security with the saved passwords would be an issue, so perhaps there's a way around that problem? I also wouldn't mind entering a password once, which is stored for the duration the launcher is open, and sent to the clients for auto-launch.
[...]


Use a one time sign in through the launcher, and have the server return a unique access token to the launcher. This token would theoretically only work from that computer, and would be completely unrelated from the password, actually increasing account security. You would be able to revoke tokens from the account management site, and disable it entirely from there as well.

Would that work or anything I'm overlooking?


edit: removed some unrelated content
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#24 - 2012-02-28 19:11:27 UTC
Any plans in the future to have a server select option? (Sisi for example would be greyed out until you select and agree to install and does the sisi launcher like function.)?

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Celebris Nexterra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-02-28 19:11:56 UTC
I approve of this product and/or service.
Sarmatiko
#26 - 2012-02-28 19:20:55 UTC
Garrvik wrote:
How will this impact players with junction points?

It won't affect?
Your EVE settings are stored in %USER%/Appdata/Local/CCP/EVE which IIRC is not touched by patching/repairing process.
I have same junction point config as you, and I always patch only once.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#27 - 2012-02-28 19:33:51 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:
ORCACommander wrote:
Got a broken link in the devblog proper at the end,.

Said it before and say it again. I DO NOT WANT AN AUTORUN MENU WHEN I CLICK THE SHORTCUT TO LAUNCH THE GAME!

I don't quite understand what you mean, can you elaborate please?


The "Dev Blogs" Link on the EvE Gate Menu is broken, and gives a 404 error.

To be more specific... my screen shows

EvE | Gate ..... character info... EvE websites

Home : Profile : Contacts: Mail : Calendar: Voice: ..... DEV BLOGS : Evlopedia : Froums : Search Function.

The DEV BLOGS link is broken...

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#28 - 2012-02-28 19:34:10 UTC

Can you answer the Mac specific questions asked before instead of just skipping over them like they where not there?

Please, sugarcakcandy on top?
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#29 - 2012-02-28 19:37:25 UTC
Any future chance in making it sisi and tq login seperate on the launcher? so that sisi patches will no longer try to autopatch my tranquility build ever again?

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Nadja Dobrovodsky
Raccoon Covenant
Fraternity.
#30 - 2012-02-28 19:46:38 UTC
What I would like about the launcher is that it should not use so much resources as the current Main screen window.

What I dislike is that the main window opens as normal but then a pop-up tells me that there is an update so It has to close and load back up after the install/update. That's dumb. Better get the launcher check for updates and then after it's ok, press the play button to load the resource-eating window to come on.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#31 - 2012-02-28 19:54:12 UTC
Looks like a good way to spam advertisements in our faces, but then again, I suppose that could be done with the current one if they wanted to.
Lord Azori
Bob's Bait and Tackle
#32 - 2012-02-28 19:55:57 UTC
I give a hearty +1 to updates coming in smaller more fequent internvals. I also support the comments here about being able to toggle between launching Sisi and Tranquilty in the same launcher. My main concern however is with the idea of peer-to-peer sharing of the client. Please make sure that this is something that is completely transparent and is totally opt-out-able. And please, please please never EVER use something like Pando Media Booster. People will quit your game in droves. Especially Eve pilots, which I would gather are a bit more technically savy then your average MMO user.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#33 - 2012-02-28 20:07:57 UTC
Another luncher, didnt you redo it some time ago Straight

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
Ironworks Coalition
#34 - 2012-02-28 20:18:00 UTC
Right now, I click on a button on my taskbar which loads the game and takes me to the login screen. It patches there and then if it's not patched. What you're proposing is to load something, which in turn loads the login screen? What's the point, seriously? Because other MMOs do it? >_>

The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong.
Maevra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-02-28 20:42:39 UTC
Versuvius Marii wrote:
Right now, I click on a button on my taskbar which loads the game and takes me to the login screen. It patches there and then if it's not patched. What you're proposing is to load something, which in turn loads the login screen? What's the point, seriously? Because other MMOs do it? >_>

It'll save you time (and you can disable the launcher from showing when a patch isn't available, making it act like launching eve does now).

It'll save you time, though, because it'll check for the patch before loading EVE.

Currently, when you start the EVE application, it starts EVE in it's entirety (load everything into memory, start rendering the login screen, etc), then EVE checks for a patch. If it needs a patch, it then downloads and installs the patch, then you have to restart eve (load everything into memory, start rendering the login screen, etc...).

The new model checks for the patch and installs it if necessary, then launches eve (load everything into memory, start rendering the login screen, etc...).

The new launcher starts the main EVE process (load everything into memory, start rendering the login screen, etc...) one less time, which will make for a shorter process.
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#36 - 2012-02-28 20:52:14 UTC
Having the ability to detect if a patch exists and ask for confirmation before auto-downloading and applying would be nice.

Sometimes you just want to login quick and throw another skill in the queue before leaving for work and not have to sit through a giant download.

This would ideally be a configurable option because some users may download 200MB in the blink of an eye, while for others it might take the better part of an hour.

It would also allow me to quit the launcher before the patch and make a quick backup of my existing EVE directory in case the installer goes berserk and trashes the entire install directory. I normally do this before major patches with the existing patch methods.

Please support: export of settings in editable format

Your stuff goes here.
StevieTopSiders
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-02-28 21:14:01 UTC
Can we have a clock on the launcher that displays the current Eve time and date? It would be really helpful for finding out if those "Friday 02:00" ops are on real life Friday or game-time Saturday.
Anvil44
Avedis Corporation
The Vanguard Syndicate
#38 - 2012-02-28 21:16:31 UTC
As I believe someone mentioned, having the option to start separate accounts from one launcher would be great. I usually run up to 3 alts at once and would like to be able to see this handle launching all 3 from one point in a seamless environment.

I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.
Vegare
Bitslix
Lolsec Fockel
#39 - 2012-02-28 21:24:18 UTC
same feedback as the last time:
to make the launcher really useful: let us use it to log in - then lauch the player right into the game!
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#40 - 2012-02-28 21:28:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Smoking Blunts
will this patch all 7 of my installs at once?

will i need to use 7 launchers to patch or use my 7 clients/installs?

will i have to use this to patch or can i use the current patcher?

OMG when can i get a pic here