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Bumping mechanics.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-03-01 13:52:32 UTC
Kitt JT wrote:
So you're saying that because caps are SOOOOOO much bigger, they should barely get the paint scratched by a battleship?

Makes sense...

Now you're saying that if the machariel and the chimera collided, the machariel should basically be destroyed, and the chimera should be fine.

except the macharial is 90% the size of the chimera

So if a sunfire hits a prius, the sunfire will just have a little scratched paint?
Got it.

and two words:
Jita undock

No. Don't confuse collision damage with my proposal. I was just making a statment. Collision damage won't work simply because of things like the Jita undock and current control mechanics.

Yes...a Mach should be obliterated if it ran full speed headlong into a capital but it would also damage the capital if there were collision damage in the game. Not saying it wouldn't. Just saying the Capital would win no matter what. There is also no reason a Mach should have close to the same mass (not size Blink ) as a capital. That is called CCP didn't do the numbers right.

Either way...it is about the bumping mechanics and not collision.

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#22 - 2012-03-01 15:15:01 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
hahahaha you dont know how science works...
2 scenarios for FTL

1) you bend space to travel through a "mini-wormhole" kind of tunnel (supoprted ingame by the fact that you can pass through physical objects in warp such as planets)

2) relies on the fact that LIGHT DOES NOT MOVE AT A CONSTANT SPEED HURR DURR DURR, taking black holes and their spatial effects into consideratiosn,and OBSERVATIONS made on black holes located near stars has SHOWED that light cannot escape blackholes, and in fact CHANGES SPEED as it tries to escape/ is dragged into, the black hole.

so NUTS to your "FTL is unrealistic" nonsense, the only impossible in science is what you can't IMAGINE being possible, laws of physics are guidelines because we can only test them in environments we can reach (terrestial and robital locations).

SO BOOYA, brush up on your physics and scientific theory cause its like 5 years out of date.
EDIT: i meant to check spelling but figured proofreading was a waste.

Sorry, I was trying to make a sarcastic comment on the futility of justifying in-game mechanics with IRL physics. The issue with adjusting bumping so that capitals cannot be bumped means that they are put at even less risk when used on station, to collapse WHs or when left sitting stationary in a POS etc.

As for your points made on physics:

1) All wormholes are "mini-wormholes", and they are extremely unstable. Other than the obvious issues involving the power required to create a large wormhole, and the more complex issues associated with creating a stable/stationary one, they are still traversed at sub-luminal velocities. Hence, not FTL.

Although I can't stress enough the amount of power required to create a large, traversable wormhole, it is probably several magnitudes more than the mass of our universe. Not to mention the fact that it requires a large amount of negative energy. Not something that is easily or efficiently created, let alone easily used or stored.

2) I think the effect you're thinking of is that something traveling at close to c, entering the gravity well of a spinning black hole at escape velocity would be moving faster than the speed of light relative to an outside observer? This is because space is rotating around the event horizon, the object is in fact not traveling faster than c locally, as such c remains a constant in vacuum and the object still travels at sub-luminal velocities.

Anyway, if you want to reply to the above two points PM me, and let this thread get on with bumping mechanics :D I just couldn't resist replying since I quite like physics :)

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