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The reason I can't get excited about DUST

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-02-27 19:47:52 UTC
Vetrox Satria wrote:
I DID NOT KNOW I COULD USE A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD WITH DUST!!!!!!

Can i use any old usb device or do i have to get a sony approved one.

Mega wood going on right now!

All i need now is it to be in 3D and there will be some **** in my actual factual pants

Pretty much any mouse and keyboard will work. I have a mouse that doesn't work on my PS3 but I think it was created sometime around the last Ice Age.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#42 - 2012-02-27 19:48:15 UTC
IsTheOpOver wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:

Also Confirming I have dusted off my PS3 to play Dust 514 (also that I found two games to keep me occupied, Valkaria Chronicles and Disgiea 4)


Damn you! I wish I could play Disgaea 4.. my PS3 YLOD'd over a year ago. Nippon Ichi is the best and the true reason to own a PS3.

They need to put Dust out on PSVita.


Then you will be a happy camper, although how much of DUST will be available on it is still unconfirmed.

Plus you can use their pointy wand thingy.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#43 - 2012-02-27 19:48:57 UTC
I do know USB keyboards are compatable with both xbox and ps3.

Mice I havent tried yet because well... neither of them had a game that could use a mouse until very very soon.

I will confirm any blue tooth compatable ones are going to work but I peferred mine wired.

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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-02-27 20:41:06 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
Miss Whippy wrote:
Danfen Fenix wrote:
You do realise that there are a LOT of ways that the games can be made to interacte with each other, without actually having them need each other, right? Such as, both games will have PI. The link between the two could be a market allowing players to buy & sell resources across both. As you can do PI on both games, it doesnt mean that one relies on the other, but still promotes interactivity. Same with the orbital bombardment. Neither game needs it, but its a nice little addition to add depth Smile

Edit: Also, the whole link idea is a great for CCP from a marketting perspective as well. A standard FPS has, CoD, Battlefield and a myriad of others as competition. However, AFAIK, there is no game out there with this link currently that could be competition, nor may there be for a few years to come. Simply because, how many games can you name that could have a successful, attractive idea such as this linked cross game/platform? Play WOW as an orc in first person? Players will moan that they cant do that already...and so on. For a company to become competition, either they're going to have to be very inventive, or create two more games, which gives CCP a nice lead.


There's plenty of ways the games cna be related to each other yes. But not in any meaningful way by CCP's own admission. You can't link the two games in any useful way as if DUST dies, so does EvE. That is what CCP have said themselves.


no they said they would be weary and would start slowly and that's about it. all dipends on dust gameplay tbh so they can make it or break it.

edit please link me to that statment, blog or podcast.
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-02-27 20:49:45 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
Nova Fox wrote:
I do know USB keyboards are compatable with both xbox and ps3.

Mice I havent tried yet because well... neither of them had a game that could use a mouse until very very soon.

I will confirm any blue tooth compatable ones are going to work but I peferred mine wired.



you could play ut3 with a mouse keyboard but due to ......whatever it didnt work very well. epicness ^^. wonder if they will still blame button lag on whatever.
gaszy mexican
SILVER INDUSTRIES
#46 - 2012-02-27 21:11:47 UTC
Miss Whippy wrote:
What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?

CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."

In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?

I see two options:

1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.

2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns.



what makes you think the dust players will give a **** if there accepted or not ? alot of them are mercs your need them in some form or another , alos there is going to be mercs in alot of corps id say that have members with ps3 so i dont see if being a issue at all.
and as the game isnt even out yet dont comment on the level of interaction between eve and dust .
BIGTEX123
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-02-27 23:05:54 UTC  |  Edited by: BIGTEX123
Hmm I always seem to do better on FPS's on my consoles than PC.
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-02-28 00:01:45 UTC
@ op

So basically your post comes down to it just being a whine, because DUST is not being released on the PC.


You're a few months behind the other threads like this.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#49 - 2012-02-28 00:09:09 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
@ op

So basically your post comes down to it just being a whine, because DUST is not being released on the PC.


You're a few months years behind the other threads like this.
There you go.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-02-28 00:26:32 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
@ op

So basically your post comes down to it just being a whine, because DUST is not being released on the PC.


You're a few months behind the other threads like this.


It's going to be hilarious when months after Dust fails some CCP employee admits that it was because they didn't release the game for PC.

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Revajin
Doomheim
#51 - 2012-02-28 02:58:05 UTC
CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure.
Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-02-28 03:04:48 UTC
Zagdul wrote:


Oh sweet, a new and revolutionary thread I've never read before.



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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#53 - 2012-02-28 03:30:52 UTC
Revajin wrote:
CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure.

You be late with wrong news.

Keyboard+mouse has been confirmed for the gameplay itself.

Nyan

Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-02-28 04:01:22 UTC
Dust will fail GUARANTEED

watch this space

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#55 - 2012-02-28 05:44:10 UTC
Revajin wrote:
CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure.



You're slow thats three months old news, Combat keyboard and mouse was like 2 week ago.

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-02-28 06:10:38 UTC
Revajin wrote:
CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure.


I'm almost insulted. It's almost as if people aren't listening.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#57 - 2012-02-28 06:40:37 UTC
Grideris wrote:
Revajin wrote:
CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure.


I'm almost insulted. It's almost as if people aren't listening.

http://www.dust514base.com/2012/02/cast-514-episode-1-ccp-grand-opening.html



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Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#58 - 2012-02-28 06:47:41 UTC
Stopped reading after the generalized bash on console owners.

It it difficult to get to the top of that pillar there? I figure it must be a ***** to have to pay for rocket trips or is it some kind of space elevator?

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg

Sardon Darkstar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-02-28 08:03:37 UTC
Some socio-scientists should look into this interesting chronical doomsaying. No matter what sort of game, no matter what company, there always seem to be a persistant group of people who feel this urge to go on forums to tell the world that the game is going to fail, how it's going to fail and why it's going to fail.
I bet this could be your ticket to a doctorate Big smile
Marlakh
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-02-28 08:14:52 UTC
I'm very excited about Dust and the possibilities that it holds for Eve and the future of MMOFPS. I hope my fellow capsuleers like the OP can keep an open mind and evaluate the game objectively when it comes out. Certainly I see that CCP is making a great effort in maximising connectivity between both games, such as common voice/text chat, real time battle outcomes, and dedicated server architecture. KB+mouse use is just the icing on the cake, and there is a lot of game-mechanics that will be revealed only during Fanfest.

I expect numerous teething problems when Dust first comes out. Lag times, server reliability, game balancing, bugs, interface issues all threaten to tarnish the hype generated over the last few months. And most important of all, as a collective package, is it fun to play, and will the console and Eve players embrace it?

Less than a month to go before we see what CCP has been up to for the last 4 years. I can't wait!