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Micro Transactions - Aye or Nay?
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Vetrox Satria
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-02-27 19:57:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Vetrox Satria
Lina Alar wrote:
Vetrox Satria wrote:
Lina Alar wrote:

How should we be able to pay for them?
ISK.



You do know you can buy the vanity items with isk right? (that statement sounded alot more condesending (again I cant spell) than i want it too sorry)

ATM i dont think there are enough vanity items to warrant any arguments at all. I know it would take quite a while (although there is now a team dedicated to it) but I would like to see 1000's of items with 100k's of combinations of clothes.

I dont think players would want to produce them I know I would'nt bother making thousands of shirts.

Still unsure on the idea of them being destructable...but that said it would help the people manufacturing it.

Maybe all but the best of items should be able to be bought with iskies and save things like faction clothing (I would love to be a caldari state beurocrat (cant spell) with a suit) should just be on the Nex and only availible to the wealthiest of RPers. Remember isk = plex and plex = aur.

Agreed. By that flat statement I meant payment in the store using ISK, and the removal of Aurum. Grey Stormshadow pointed out in another thread that doing so would make a more direct connection between subscription fees and funding of vanity items, which I have to agree is probably a bad idea. After considering that, I probably do need to change that answer to AUR.


+1

I dont see the point of aurum considering you just buy a plex with isk. I mean aurum is all well and good apart from the fact that it has driven the price of plex up since it was introduced.

However Im at the state now where...Im not at all bothered weather or not aur is kept in or not considering it is still accesible to everyone...even if the monocle is a bajillion isk. I just want more clothes and some that aren't too expensive. Any chance of some beefy gladiator style (all sci-fied up of course) pauldrons and bracers just some different clothes. You got the basic startup clothes that you pick when you customise your char. I really want a red tank top for my avatar can i have one that is maybe 200k isk? (so 500 ish aur?)

NOTE: They should ad holsters...man my guy would loook sweeeeet with a holster and a gun

EDIT: just seen the posts about aurum in Dust and its now making me think about the whole aur thing...ive had enough arguing (although its now more of a debate :D ) im actually going to go play the game im paying for
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-02-27 20:00:52 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
Ranger 1 wrote:
Solhild wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Wacktopia wrote:
It's less about the "Yes or No" and more about the "How".
While I don't really agree with the details listed, I agree with this general statement.

MT that in no way affects the game (including not touching the market in any way)? Sure. Knock yourselves out.
MT that breaks, subverts, circumvents, obsoletes or in some other way affects gameplay? **** no.

The problem with MT in EVE is the uniquely integrated and interdependent universe CCP has created, and as an unfortunate side-effect (for their business development efforts that is) this means that the argument “don't use it if you don't like it” does not hold water — what other people do directly affects me, no matter how much “it's just for their personal use” anything supposedly is. So as the wacko says, yes or no all comes down to “how”.


How = PLEX and break it into micro components called isk Big smile


Or broken down into micro components called AUR, which is a currency that will also be used in DUST.

I believe this latter point is part of the reason why CCP is reluctant to just go with an ISK only system.


there's another game that's in beta atm that the devs categorically quote " no pay to win" yet just recently they released a gamplay type that requires unlocks that can be only be gotten by major grinding or buying in game currency. menwhile to have any chance at being half way competitive you have to have said unlock. if dust goes down this route tbh they can keep it.


edit: so in conclusion get your arse handed to you by scrubs or grind for a couple of weeks or pay up. meh meh meh.
coolzero
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-02-27 20:10:53 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Vanity only and more vanity.



this

i would love to pay for a dancing pole in my captain quarters and have the exotic dancers i saved up doing something :D


gold ammo...no way.


ow and do away with aurum, we have plex that enough to use for microtransactions.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#44 - 2012-02-27 21:16:22 UTC
Miss Whippy wrote:
Apart from the fact that there's nothing Micro about CCP's idea of MT, this is a simple question to gauge how many people are for or against MT in a game you already pay for. For the most part I will be voting:

Nay.

EDIT: This isn't a discussion, just say yes or no.


You said your opinion, I'll say mine.

Yay.
As long as it has no impact on gameplay (no gold ammo or special edition ships), and it's just purely vanity items (clothing, like certain games have clothing, pets, etc). Who cares if CCP makes more money on top of the subs, but it never ever should impact the gameplay. Ever. Not to mention that'd be horrendous, potential impact wise, on the sandbox.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#45 - 2012-02-27 21:19:49 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Not just no, **** no.

A cash shop has no place in a subscription game, and CCP should be ashamed for trying to do it in EVE.



You mean like the PLEX system?

Aurum buys toys. PLEX buys Titans, characters, game time, pays for nullwars, etc.

I'm pretty sure I'd take Aurum over PLEX for long term game stability.

Mr Epeen Cool
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#46 - 2012-02-29 21:19:35 UTC
Miss Whippy wrote:
Wacktopia wrote:
It's less about the "Yes or No" and more about the "How".

MT kind of already exists through the PLEX purchasing system. The potential problems/questions I have with MTs are...

- Will you be able to buy FiS things through NeX that you cannot get anywhere else?
- Will those "things" be limited to blue-prints so they are actually manufactured outside of NeX?
- Will the NeX items be destroy-on-death? I.e will a panted ship remain painted for you or will you need to re-paint it?
- Will the items you can buy ever enhance your ship or character in space? :-(

In general I don't want to see anything else going into the NeX at all but we'll see where the freight train of whoever is behind the mess of NeX takes us NeXt.


I don't regard Plexes as MT, for the simple reason that I STILL HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE GAME WITHOUT SELLING PLEX.

Apologies for the caps, but there is a difference and I wish people would stop suggesting that Aurum and Plex are one and the same thing.


I'm not saying they are the SAME.

$$$ > PLEX > stuff.

That is a MT. An that is all I'm saying.

Stop calling me out on stuff like youre right on it. You're wrong.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
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