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Domoso
Planisphere Salvage
#41 - 2012-03-02 20:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Domoso
These guys are a great group. Ask a question and the answer will be "your fit is ****". Demonstrate significant DPS, be told your posting inaccurate figures. Ask why the fit is ****, get told you suck.

Seriously, came into their pub channel to see if a shield buff Hyperion with +1600dps (implanted and high skills) could fit in their fleets and got exactly zero answers other than to be kicked when I asked how much DPS are they getting from their faction ships.

Apparently, the ONLY criteria is that you fly faction. All other concerns are secondary to these jerks.
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-03-02 20:12:04 UTC
Domoso wrote:
These guys are a great group. Ask a question and the answer will be "your fit is ****". Demonstrate significant DPS, be told your posting inaccurate figures. Ask why the fit is ****, get told you suck.

Seriously, came into their pub channel to see if a shield buff Hyperion with +1600dps (implanted and high skills) could fit in their fleets and got exactly zero answers other than to be kicked when I asked how much DPS are they getting from their faction ships.

Apparently, the ONLY criteria is that you fly faction. All other concerns are secondary to these jerks.


This rage made my day, Please read the topic, If you wish to get a fleet with a Hyperion join Btl Pub, Consistanly being told about the community is pirate faction only and still persisting in aruging your point.

That is why you go banned, Please read the topics or the channel MOTD before posting to avoid things like this.

Herr Ronin

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#43 - 2012-03-02 20:20:49 UTC
TLDR: LFM ICC 10

Not today spaghetti.
Domoso
Planisphere Salvage
#44 - 2012-03-02 20:22:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Domoso
Herr Ronin wrote:


This rage made my day,


Glad I could be of assistance. But, you're missing the point. Your first contention with the Hyperion fit wasn't that it wasn't faction. It was that you didn't believe I can get that kind of DPS out of it. When I continued to probe for more answers is when you cried "faction only". Then when I asked how much DPS you got from your faction ships, completely out of curiosity, you kicked me. That I was kicked, no big deal. That you guys were complete jerks from start to finish of that convo is the point.

Just injecting a bit of realism in this thread of ass grabbers.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#45 - 2012-03-02 20:46:04 UTC
Domoso wrote:
Herr Ronin wrote:


This rage made my day,


Glad I could be of assistance. But, you're missing the point. Your first contention with the Hyperion fit wasn't that it wasn't faction. It was that you didn't believe I can get that kind of DPS out of it. When I continued to probe for more answers is when you cried "faction only". Then when I asked how much DPS you got from your faction ships, completely out of curiosity, you kicked me. That I was kicked, no big deal. That you guys were complete jerks from start to finish of that convo is the point.

Just injecting a bit of realism in this thread of ass grabbers.


There is difference between DPS and then the actual projected DPS on small high velocity targets. Smile
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#46 - 2012-03-02 20:58:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kodavor
Quote:


There is difference between DPS and then the actual projected DPS on small high velocity targets. Smile


My Rate of fire (RoF) is 5.11s in a Vindicator that is fit with 425 Railgun || . If every single volley I land hits for atleast 2000 damage and no less . Every single shot 2k or higher . My dps would be 391.38 or higher . not 1.3k as EFT shows . Not 1.7k and most certainly not 2k as some blaster boats claim . To have 2k dps ( Damage per second ) you would have to hit for 10220 each volley . 10k hits each time your guns do a cycle with a 5.11s RoF . So ... how much dps you were pullling out of your Hyperion Mr. Domoso ? Was it +1600 dps ? If I fit my blasters on I get my RoF up to 3.99 . I assume you can do the same . So with that in mind ... to get 1600dps you would have to hit for 6384 damage every volley . Any hit below 6384 would mean that you do less then 1600 dps . Maybe I am missing something about Hyperions . Maybe they do 6k hit per each volley . Did they get a stealth buff at some point ?
Domoso
Planisphere Salvage
#47 - 2012-03-03 03:14:32 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
Quote:


There is difference between DPS and then the actual projected DPS on small high velocity targets. Smile


My Rate of fire (RoF) is 5.11s in a Vindicator that is fit with 425 Railgun || . If every single volley I land hits for atleast 2000 damage and no less . Every single shot 2k or higher . My dps would be 391.38 or higher . not 1.3k as EFT shows . Not 1.7k and most certainly not 2k as some blaster boats claim . To have 2k dps ( Damage per second ) you would have to hit for 10220 each volley . 10k hits each time your guns do a cycle with a 5.11s RoF . So ... how much dps you were pullling out of your Hyperion Mr. Domoso ? Was it +1600 dps ? If I fit my blasters on I get my RoF up to 3.99 . I assume you can do the same . So with that in mind ... to get 1600dps you would have to hit for 6384 damage every volley . Any hit below 6384 would mean that you do less then 1600 dps . Maybe I am missing something about Hyperions . Maybe they do 6k hit per each volley . Did they get a stealth buff at some point ?


There's no debating that tracking issues affect DPS. But then that Hyperion has dual tracking enhancers, web, I have tracking implants and take boosters to further increase tracking. So I'd say I track better than most. Then again, the entire topic in their pub channel was dismissed as soon as they decided that there was no way a Hyperion could get +1600dps.

BTW, when someone asks how much DPS your Vindi gets, do you state EFT results? Or do you come up with some arbitrarily low number to reflect tracking? Everyone knows EFT is not perfect and in game results will vary. But it is at least a measure.

Then again, the convo never made it farther than "inaccurate DPS", "Your fit sux", "faction only", in that order. Frankly, any group of a**holes like that, I don't want to be a part of. I'm just posting here to inform potential recruits of the BS they're going to have to swallow to join these guys.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-03-03 08:55:22 UTC
is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#49 - 2012-03-03 13:22:06 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns?


Scorch beats the hell out of radio. You will be surprised how much damage can be dealt with scorch on 70 km engagement range.
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#50 - 2012-03-03 16:22:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Kodavor
Quote:
there was no way a Hyperion could get +1600dps.


Correct .

Quote:
BTW, when someone asks how much DPS your Vindi gets, do you state EFT results?


No .

Quote:
Or do you come up with some arbitrarily low number to reflect tracking?


No . I state the dps that my ship can do in a specific site / sites . Which is no more that 300 - ish in a Vanguard OTA or NMC .

Furthermore I must say that tracking is only one of the many factors that affect your outgoing damage . Your DPS is affected by : Signature radius , velocity , radial velocity , angular velocity , tracking , your ships velocity , your scan resolution , specific ammo , optimal range , falloff , rate of fire , damage modifier and the resistances .

I might have missed something .

So when someone asks me about my DPS I always wonder if that person wants some mistic number from EFT or the DPS that I will do on the target that he wants me to shoot at .
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#51 - 2012-03-03 21:32:53 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns?


Scorch beats the hell out of radio. You will be surprised how much damage can be dealt with scorch on 70 km engagement range.


i assume you mean pulses, because for a tach setup, even 100km are no big deal. my followup question then would be why you use pulses over tachs in incursions?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#52 - 2012-03-03 23:49:02 UTC
Quote:
why you use pulses over tachs in incursions?


I use Taco Bells and easy outdps any pulse mares in any OTA or NMC . Cap management and use knowledge required tho . Same as 1400s on Machariels .
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-03-04 01:05:37 UTC
what are the typical ranges you're shooting at and how much tracking/sensor strength is appropriate for a tach nightmare to work?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-03-04 01:18:34 UTC
Domoso wrote:
Herr Ronin wrote:


This rage made my day,


Glad I could be of assistance. But, you're missing the point. Your first contention with the Hyperion fit wasn't that it wasn't faction. It was that you didn't believe I can get that kind of DPS out of it. When I continued to probe for more answers is when you cried "faction only". Then when I asked how much DPS you got from your faction ships, completely out of curiosity, you kicked me. That I was kicked, no big deal. That you guys were complete jerks from start to finish of that convo is the point.

Just injecting a bit of realism in this thread of ass grabbers.



Come At Me Bro!

I cannot be bothered to answer your replys anymore, Please read the topic, You seem to lack the commen sense to take in the information we are giving you, We stated that we only accept Pirate Faction, A Hyperion is not. Regarding that i kicked you as soon as you "X" up is hilarouis, As i said the reason i kicked you is that you were arugeing your point and not listing to all the ISN members within the Public channel.

So please, Read the topic.

P.s, I love how mad you are, I mean... Carlsberg with tears? What is next?

Ammzi are you addicted to this thread :)

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#55 - 2012-03-04 05:45:28 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns?


Scorch beats the hell out of radio. You will be surprised how much damage can be dealt with scorch on 70 km engagement range.


i assume you mean pulses, because for a tach setup, even 100km are no big deal. my followup question then would be why you use pulses over tachs in incursions?


Tachs on a vg nightmare? Ew?
Lower dps, lower tracking and you don't need that far range.

What Herr, I can't be in here and discuss incursions?
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-03-04 13:49:22 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns?


Scorch beats the hell out of radio. You will be surprised how much damage can be dealt with scorch on 70 km engagement range.


i assume you mean pulses, because for a tach setup, even 100km are no big deal. my followup question then would be why you use pulses over tachs in incursions?


Tachs on a vg nightmare? Ew?
Lower dps, lower tracking and you don't need that far range.

What Herr, I can't be in here and discuss incursions?



Who is saying your not aloud :)

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-03-06 17:01:49 UTC
Still Looking For People To Join The Community! :P

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-03-08 00:08:58 UTC
To The Top!

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear
Infinite Force
#59 - 2012-03-09 17:07:45 UTC
I have flown with ISN off and on for some time now flying both DPS and Logistics.

I have met people from all over the world both as Squad Members and Fleet Commanders.

Great bunch of people. Keep up the good work!

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http://tinyurl.com/95zmyzw - The only way to go!
Redclaw Inshan
Serenity Crew
#60 - 2012-03-11 12:57:38 UTC
Ok found forums... yay

Ok i've been flying with ISN for quite some time now... under the old Leadership ( which was kinda... ok don't get me started)
and now under the "new" Leadership.

The Community and how we act towards each other has improved by roundabout 500%.
People are allways advised to improve their fitting if possible, but do not get yelled at, if they don't.
I personally FC for ISN since some time now too and i got to say one thing : it's FUN!!!
Great people around, smooth fleets, GREAT ISK/hour ratio and no ship losses in a regular fleet that i know of.
Standards are maybe a bit higher than other communities, but with upholding those standards, ISN makes sure that you do not loose your ship and earn quite a great amount of ISK.

All in all i can say

Great community, which is growing
Great people
Geat ISK ( ain't that one of the main reasons, why people fly incursions at all? lol)

nuff said
Redclaw