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So who is the high sec merc entity now?

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Otard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-26 21:44:59 UTC
With the orphange dead, who does all the high sec merc work? other than moar tears that is.
Rommell Drako
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-02-27 00:29:08 UTC
Otard wrote:
With the orphange dead, who does all the high sec merc work? other than moar tears that is.


You answered your own question.
Otonashi Saya
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-02-27 00:49:13 UTC
Rommell Drako wrote:
Otard wrote:
With the orphange dead, who does all the high sec merc work? other than moar tears that is.


You answered your own question.


+1

"Do you expect me to talk?"........"No Mr Bond I expect you to die"

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4 - 2012-02-27 00:52:39 UTC
Rommell Drako wrote:
Otard wrote:
With the orphange dead, who does all the high sec merc work? other than moar tears that is.


You answered your own question.

Eeeeeeeeeeeehhmmm.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Rommell Drako
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-02-27 01:10:13 UTC
NightmareX wrote:

Eeeeeeeeeeeehhmmm.


Do you need a ricola?
Otard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-27 01:17:51 UTC
im pretty sure there is another alliance in high sec... yours is kinda small.
Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-27 01:42:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Msgerbs
Confirming Noir. is dead and irrelevant as well. Although, Noir. does more than just highsec.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#8 - 2012-02-27 11:08:53 UTC
There are several good mercs in HighSec. It just depends on what job you want done..... Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-27 18:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
Otard wrote:
im pretty sure there is another alliance in high sec... yours is kinda small.


Yours is kind of irrelevant.

Didn't want that Tech moon anyway Big smile



Msgerbs wrote:
Confirming Noir. is dead and irrelevant as well. Although, Noir. does more than just highsec.


Thought you guys we're winning at EvE, most of these publords can't afford you guys anyway. Unfortunately you have lost your niche as the premiere Null Sec Mercs a while ago (WERPA) and now 0ccupational Hazzard (even if they are terrible).

Edit- besides arn't you busy getting steamrolled by FW LolLol


NightmareX wrote:
Eeeeeeeeeeeehhmmm.


Rebirth. is terrible; even though I have friends in that group- seriously terrible. I like how MrRoGeRZ failed to point my smartbombing geddon in Dixie, not once, twice, or thrice, but 4 times. I'm even -8.1 and ****, so anyone can shoot me, which makes it even worse.



Tora Bushido wrote:
There are several good mercs in HighSec. It just depends on what job you want done.....


No there are plenty of idiots in highsec pretending to be Mercs. Dec'ing a bunch of people or doing the 0rphanage style 'large alliances' isn't merc work, its griefing. You have no interest in fights, ~gudfites~, or anything even remotely resembling a fight; you're interested cheap ganks to keep your minions busy while you actually ignore a 'contract' you currently have (because hunting down 14 man corps are fun and all).
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-02-27 19:20:43 UTC
No fan of Xolve,but the man has a point... Several infact...
Tarsas Phage
Sniggerdly
#11 - 2012-02-27 19:26:58 UTC
Xolve wrote:

No there are plenty of idiots in highsec pretending to be Mercs. Dec'ing a bunch of people or doing the 0rphanage style 'large alliances' isn't merc work, its griefing.


Since when is TEST a NPC corp?

/T
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-02-27 19:45:43 UTC
Tarsas Phage wrote:


I'm not crying about anything, regardless of how important you might think you are, or the detrimental impact you might think you have on our organization- the only thing you actually do for us is weed out the ratting scrublords that don't show up for fleets anyway. Its an invaluable service really, I'd almost pay you to do it, but you and yours seem more then content to do it for free.

To people like me, all Moar Tears, the 0rphanage, Rebirth., Privateers, and every other ~elitepvp~ high sec mercenary group amount to being is an irritating flash on my UI. I'm almost never in High Sec, as a matter of fact, it got to the point with the small exception of Taisy, Poitot and Serpentis Prime... I forgot there were named systems in this game. The one thing you have in common, no matter what 'merc' group you belong to is; when dec'd avoid system x should you NEED to go to highsec (for things like carrier skill books or proteus subs Roll).

If you feel bad about being told the honest truth of things, and are to afraid to step foot into nullsec; no worries man, you fit right in where you are. No need to feel guilty though, Empire Publord.



(Jesus Rommell how can you fly with these idiots)

Tarsas Phage
Sniggerdly
#13 - 2012-02-27 20:52:13 UTC
Xolve wrote:
I'm not crying about anything


IdeaSo then don't readily identify yourself as one complaining about stuffIdea

Xolve wrote:

Regardless of how important you might think you are.


When have I implied or even said that I have some over-inflated sense of self-importance? Are you conflating my asking of a simple question 2 posts up with something else entirely?

Xolve wrote:

If you feel bad about being told the honest truth of things, and are to afraid to step foot into nullsec; no worries man, you fit right in where you are. No need to feel guilty though, Empire Publord.


Tell me, what exactly awaits me in this nullsec place? What's in it for me? In all seriousness, I'm genuinely curious.

/T
Rommell Drako
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-02-27 21:03:41 UTC
Xolve, I dont like 200 man blobs, thats all.

P.S. i dont need to go to super scary nullsec to kill yalls ships.

1. "We didnt want that (carrier, frieghter, jump frieghter) anyways" is always enjoyable.

2. I enjoy the game where I play, nothing wrong with that. And nothing wrong with nullsec (in general, there are tards in both parts of space, i just personaly think there are more "omg 2 red in local, all 70 of us should dock up" tards in 00...)

3. "and are to afraid to step foot into null" All of us have been in a null corp or alliance at one time in our eve careers. just a personal choice to fly with people that can FC themselves, dont approach titan at 2k, dont want to shoot a station for an hour, or clik on that french hot chick site for 6 hours and get blue balled by the other 00 fleet since you had more drakes, tempest, maels, and protei then they did.

4. Helicopter **** FTW

5. Did you hear about Master Dunes Super carrier giveaway? Its EPIC BRO
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-02-27 21:10:35 UTC
Tarsas Phage wrote:
[quote=Xolve]I'm not crying about anything


IdeaSo then don't readily identify yourself as one complaining about stuffIdea

I wasn't complaining about anything, just pointing out the flaws in your standard 'ideaology' of what you think you or your organization is actually doing or how they operate (by philosphy). I simply stated that by war dec'ing large Sov Holding 0.0 entities you are not looking for a fight, you're out for ganks; besides lets pretend for a second a gate camp in highsec is going to stop our neutral npc corp alts for doing what we need them to (or more likely red/black frog).

Most of us cannot even enter your little haven anyway due to sec status restrictions/gate guns/CONCORD and even if we did, the likelihood of you actually showing up/staying on grid to fight is slim to none. I remember Empire Dec's and doing exactly what you're doing today, Hell I specifically remember talking to YOU about joining Ad0pt back when they were actually good at something before ego's and drama ripped it apart.

Stop trying to glorify high sec mercenary work as being mercs at all, you're clearly not. Just like Ad0pt never really was, they took contracts sure- but 80% of their war funds came from corp taxes and in-alliance player donations. Even though, technically this isn't your fault since CCP ****** up war mechanics and were certainly not going to fold a sov holding alliance because 60 guys in Empire might blow up our jump freighters. The ticks of the technetium clock replace all the damage you can muster in mere hours.

What will you find in 0.0 you ask, you already know, the fight you can't win.

The fight you won't go to, because lolkillboardstats and ehonour.




Next?

Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-02-27 21:17:21 UTC
Rommell Drako wrote:
Xolve, I dont like 200 man blobs, thats all.


I don't mind them, as long as its pointed at another relative sized gang.

Quote:
"We didnt want that (carrier, frieghter, jump frieghter) anyways" is always enjoyable.


I move my own ****, don't rely on others, and never heard a peep in local when I'm slowly dying inside moving my JF around.

Quote:
I enjoy the game where I play, nothing wrong with that. And nothing wrong with nullsec (in general, there are tards in both parts of space, i just personaly think there are more "omg 2 red in local, all 70 of us should dock up" tards in 00...)


Its more bloodthirsty now with Tech money.. 2 reds in local lets go **** them, suddenly 200 people in your fleet. It gets ridiculous at times, no lie...

Quote:
"and are to afraid to step foot into null" All of us have been in a null corp or alliance at one time in our eve careers. just a personal choice to fly with people that can FC themselves, dont approach titan at 2k, dont want to shoot a station for an hour, or clik on that french hot chick site for 6 hours and get blue balled by the other 00 fleet since you had more drakes, tempest, maels, and protei then they did.


You already know my stance on this. I'm all for small gang pvp and for some reason enjoy it just as much as large scale huge fleet lag fests, why? I guess I just hate myself that much Lol For some reason Tarsas is butthurt about my views on 'Empire Mercs' even though I said aside from MT. most of them are worthless, a joke, and not remotely relevant, scary or useful.

Ask me about Double Tap/Rebirth. and smartbombing Dodixie. Lol

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Did you hear about Master Dunes Super carrier giveaway? Its EPIC BRO


2 years later, this is still hilarious.
Rommell Drako
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-02-27 22:05:43 UTC
Xolve wrote:


I don't mind them, as long as its pointed at another relative sized gang.


Time dialation please...

"I move my own ****, don't rely on others, and never heard a peep in local when I'm slowly dying inside moving my JF around. "

You might, but for every 1 smart person in eve there are 200 dumb ones.

"] Its more bloodthirsty now with Tech money.. 2 reds in local lets go **** them, suddenly 200 people in your fleet. It gets ridiculous at times, no lie... "

i always hear of this but never see it...

Quote:
You already know my stance on this. I'm all for small gang pvp and for some reason enjoy it just as much as large scale huge fleet lag fests, why? I guess I just hate myself that much Lol For some reason Tarsas is butthurt about my views on 'Empire Mercs' even though I said aside from MT. most of them are worthless, a joke, and not remotely relevant, scary or useful.


I doubt he is butthurt, he just likes to prode at the 00 people as much as I do...

"Ask me about Double Tap/Rebirth. and smartbombing Dodixie. Lol "

LOL, ask me about Double Tap or Rebirth... check ma killboard

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Most of us cannot even enter your little haven anyway due to sec status restrictions/gate guns/CONCORD and even if we did,


Nothing would make me happier than laughing at the attempt of a 00 group to try to come shut us up and kill us. The simple fact is that high sec fighting is different then 00 fighting, 00 players just dont know what they are doing in high sec, its why when a fleet tries to kill us they die horribly even though they have 15 rr

(referring to the solar fleet / wing scimis and basi that were slaughtered becasue warping in at range was too difficult for them to figure out...)

the end result is each side (high sec, vs 00) talk about how the other side couldnt handle fighting the other side on their home turf. 00 wants /needs capitals and cynos. high sec needs station timers and nuet logi. its the way this arguement has always been going.

Quote:
Did you hear about Master Dunes Super carrier giveaway? Its EPIC BRO


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2 years later, this is still hilarious.


And Forever Will Be.

Rommell Drako
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-02-27 22:06:33 UTC
apparently i tried too many quotes,

Dear CCP, use time dialation on the forums....
Tarsas Phage
Sniggerdly
#19 - 2012-02-27 22:24:21 UTC
Xolve wrote:

I wasn't complaining about anything, just pointing out the flaws in your standard 'ideaology' of what you think you or your organization is actually doing or how they operate (by philosphy). I simply stated that by war dec'ing large Sov Holding 0.0 entities you are not looking for a fight, you're out for ganks; besides lets pretend for a second a gate camp in highsec is going to stop our neutral npc corp alts for doing what we need them to (or more likely red/black frog).


Speaking only for myself, here. I don't speak for anyone else when I say what I say, just to make sure that's clear.

I'm with you on this. I came to the realization many moons ago that spending a base 50m to dec a sov-holding alliance in order to camp a pipe to catch the odd t2-fit drake, cane or untanked hauler is a bit unchallenging after a short while, with underwhelming results (woo, 3 t2 HMLs dropped. Let me rush back home to add these to the stack of 250 already in my hangar!)

Come to think of it, I would posit that PvP life in 0.0 outside of the weekend 300-ship field trips^H^H^H^H^H^H^HCTAs is largely no different... camping a pipe with drag bubbles to catch to odd t2-fit drake, cane, or untanked hauler, where convenient color tags (or lack thereof) next to peoples' names in local point you the way to right or wrong, along with heads-up intel stretching 2 regions in either direction. Sounds glorious. Oh, we're talking about empire here? Apologies for the tangent.

So I, personally, don't do the empire wardec thing much anymore just to gank those ratting scrublords you referred to. If I do engage in one these days, it's generally for a very specific reason or finely-focussed goal of personal interest, which usually revolves around solving the problem related to the explosive growth of uninspected or unlicensed (and often poorly parked) capital ships which regularly ply the spaceways of New Eden (a primary cause of many otherwise avoidable deaths) and even then, wardecs aren't wholly a necessity.

Xolve wrote:
Hell I specifically remember talking to YOU about joining Ad0pt back when they were actually good at something before ego's and drama ripped it apart.


Ah, see, here's where I think your vitriol is a bit misdirected - you've confused me with someone else... I've never been a member of or associated with ad0pt, (yes, I am posting with my main. Who wouldn't?) and I certainly don't recall conversing with you, although I'm sure it would have been a pleasant one.

Heh, I remember once considering joining them as well, but when I popped into PitBoss's Office asked "Do you guys take small fleets out and, you know, hunt?" I only heard the chirping of crickets against the background hum of sensor boosters, occasionally punctuated by the sound of a pod undocking from Jita 4-4.

Xolve wrote:

because 60 guys in Empire might blow up our jump freighters. The ticks of the technetium clock replace all the damage you can muster in mere hours.


Small nit: Actually it's just 3 of us.

/T
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-02-27 22:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
Tarsas Phage wrote:
Speaking only for myself, here. I don't speak for anyone else when I say what I say, just to make sure that's clear.


Same, I do not speak for or represent my alliance or corp in any way. Just some idiot on an internet spaceship forum, throwing around my opinions Lol

Tarsas Phage wrote:
I'm with you on this. I came to the realization many moons ago that spending a base 50m to dec a sov-holding alliance in order to camp a pipe to catch the odd t2-fit drake, cane or untanked hauler is a bit unchallenging after a short while, with underwhelming results...


Actually, the no ratting, set taxes to 100%, get in ******* CTA fleet days died with Morsus Mihi, Mostly Harmless and those other worthless denizens of the old north. We send out a jabber ping and literally get a full fleet in minutes, if you don't come, yeah whatever we'll call you a superjew and make fun of you and your toys (but we we're all that person once).


Tarsas Phage wrote:

Ah, see, here's where I think your vitriol is a bit misdirected - you've confused me with someone else... I've never been a member of or associated with ad0pt, (yes, I am posting with my main. Who wouldn't?) and I certainly don't recall conversing with you, although I'm sure it would have been a pleasant one.


I had originally talked to you when you had just left JUGIS about joining The Priesthood. If you don't remember its no big deal, but it wasn't on this character. I had also assumed based off your corp history that you were the hop in, hop out type. If my assumption was wrong, well; it certainly isn't the first time Smile
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