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Joint Harvesting plantation raided

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Luna Mori
AmmuNacionale
#1 - 2012-02-26 20:31:10 UTC
Acting on intelligence provided by local Republic agents, and aided by capsuleers, private security forces located and entered a hidden agricultural plantation in the system of Barkrik today. The plantation, owned by Amarrian corporation Joint Harvesting, is reportedly worked by slaves which are known to be transported about the Ani constellation by the corporation.

Two capsuleer warships encountered fierce resistance from a defending fleet of Amarrian combat vessels bearing Imperial Navy signatures. The defending fleet was destroyed and later inspections of wreckage produced identification tags belonging to officers and ranks of the Imperial Navy.

The entire facility was then searched by landing parties but was found to be completely deserted. However, troops did find and recover the body of an undercover agent working for the Republic before the small attacking fleet withdrew from the area.

The Eight Sisters Intelligence Service continues to collect and analyse data in the search for further evidence of Joint Harvesting's involvement in slavery throughout Ani. Whether the Republic will openly respond to this situation, and the news that Imperial Navy vessels are operating in Republic space, remains to be seen. In the meantime, hardliner pilots continue to liberate slaves from Joint Harvesting convoys.

Luna Mori
General Secretary, Ani Tribal Assembly.

General Secretary, Ani Tribal Assembly

Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-02-26 20:45:22 UTC
I congratulate the capsuleers for their actions in destroying the Imperial fleet.

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Markius TheShed
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#3 - 2012-02-27 08:42:21 UTC
When will the Republic act and kick these slaver corporations out of our space?

Everyday our tribe fight on the border to keep the Amarr at bay and behind us these corporations are allowed to operate without restriction.

Remove them now.

**Murientor Tribe** a capsuleer organization composed of radical Minmatar. Since YC107

Aodha Khan
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-02-27 13:22:27 UTC
News about Amarr ships going down is always good news. Well done. Smile

Power is not something that is granted - it is something to be taken.

Los Muertas
HDYLTA
#5 - 2012-03-04 01:16:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Los Muertas
Simply put, we have once more been betrayed by the Republic. A case can be made by the "Doves" that we have no buisness interfering with such activities outside of our space, but this is to much. Shakor was supposed to end the era of appeasment and atleast give those within the Republic a backbone, instead he is the same as Midular. And where are the Elders, where is Ambassador Yun?

I am here by offering a bounty to anyone willing to take it. 2000isk per slave that can be proven to have been taken from these compounds. Should legal issues arise I will take anyone named an outlaw by the Republic to my personal compund deep into Thukker space where you will be safe and comfortable.
Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#6 - 2012-03-04 01:17:23 UTC
Another stirling effort from 8SIS, Luna Mori.

I encourage all Minmatar nationals to seek out these Amarr abominations in Republican space and raid their disgusting convoys repeatedly. You'll be doing good and honest day's work against the political corruption of the blood-stained 'status quo' at the same time.





"Modern Life is Rubbish"

Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#7 - 2012-03-04 04:07:34 UTC
It saddens me that we can assemble large space fleets but struggle to feed our own. How do I know this, you may ask. Because if the Republic's domestic food-raising efforts were adequate there would be no need for Joint Harvesting in the Republic. Native Freshfoods can only do so much.
Los Muertas
HDYLTA
#8 - 2012-03-04 08:19:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Los Muertas
Rek Jaiga wrote:
It saddens me that we can assemble large space fleets but struggle to feed our own. How do I know this, you may ask. Because if the Republic's domestic food-raising efforts were adequate there would be no need for Joint Harvesting in the Republic. Native Freshfoods can only do so much.


This has nothing to do with abilities or inabilities to feed the masses and everything to do with a failed political system put in place to govern a people that were never meant to live that way and hijacked by corrupt people that have no claim to the lineage of the Six Kin. End of story.
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#9 - 2012-03-04 11:31:39 UTC
Los Muertas wrote:
Rek Jaiga wrote:
It saddens me that we can assemble large space fleets but struggle to feed our own. How do I know this, you may ask. Because if the Republic's domestic food-raising efforts were adequate there would be no need for Joint Harvesting in the Republic. Native Freshfoods can only do so much.


This has nothing to do with abilities or inabilities to feed the masses and everything to do with a failed political system put in place to govern a people that were never meant to live that way and hijacked by corrupt people that have no claim to the lineage of the Six Kin. End of story.



My statement didn't disagree with yours. As I said, if there were more emphasis on the part of the Republic on domestic food production, there would be no need for a Joint Harvesting prescence in Republic space. None of this would have happened.

So why is this happening? Are the needs of the Matari people being met by the current leadership? These are questions we need to ask ourselves and consider carefully. This is a young government and we need to go forth wisely.
Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#10 - 2012-03-04 14:10:28 UTC
Rek Jaiga wrote:

My statement didn't disagree with yours. As I said, if there were more emphasis on the part of the Republic on domestic food production, there would be no need for a Joint Harvesting prescence in Republic space. None of this would have happened.


How shall we explain away Imperial Armaments, who also have a presence with their louse-ridden stations?

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So why is this happening? Are the needs of the Matari people being met by the current leadership? These are questions we need to ask ourselves and consider carefully. This is a young government and we need to go forth wisely.


These are good questions to ask and to debate.

"Modern Life is Rubbish"

Edaine Numenor
Numenor Benevolent Holdings
#11 - 2012-03-04 14:42:05 UTC
Markius TheShed wrote:
When will the Republic act and kick these slaver corporations out of our space?

Everyday our tribe fight on the border to keep the Amarr at bay and behind us these corporations are allowed to operate without restriction.

Remove them now.


I completely understand the angst felt regarding Amarr corporations operating in Republic space especially when slave labor is involved. These Corporate acts are criminal and reprehensible. However, we need to calm down a bit and realize that this is a double edged sword and a tricky political issue. Yes, Amarr corporations operate in Republic space, but Republic Security Services also operates openly in Amarr space as does Freedom Extension et.al. There is give and take. Is the Republic willing to withdraw all their corporate and security facilities and interests from Amarr space? I doubt it. There is always more to it than meets the eye.

Liberating slaves wherever, whenever, and however I can.

Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-03-04 23:35:20 UTC
Removing the corporate interests that lay on the other side of the line (IE Amarrian corporation in Matari space, etc) would take quite a lot of work and resources. In some cases the stations these corporations operate out of are in large part financed by those corporations. With that in mind there are really only a few basic options to "remove them now."

The Republic can throw immense amounts of money at these corporations and effectively buy the stations out from under them. Which means the cost of the infrastructure itself, plus the projected loss of profits from being forced out of the market area.

The second option being taking these stations and planetside holdings by force, which will no doubt only provoke the same sort of response from the other party.

And Rek's observation leads to the third option. Build up the Republic's economy and infrastructure to the point that it is no longer worth the expense to have Amarrian corporations operate in Republic space.

For now it's really a legal battle to ensure these corporations operate within local laws. Catch them when they violate local laws, fine and punish them within the bounds of local laws and international trade agreements.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-03-05 00:49:44 UTC
Uraniae: There is, of course, the fourth option - simply alter laws and tariffs relating to corporations you don't like until doing business in your space becomes intolerable. At some point, the corporations will eventually decide they've had enough, fire-sell their assets and storm off in a huff.

I'm not saying this is the best option, but it's certainly an effective one.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-03-05 03:29:17 UTC
Yes that is an option Andreas, though I think it's far more likely that the Republic would be able to build it's own economy rather than defeat the business specialized legal teams that would fight any "unfair" tariffs or oversight laws. Sort of a sorry state of affairs when the genuine work is actually easier than the legal hoop jumping.

If I had to pick a "best" option I know I'd certainly go with a more self sufficient Republic. Other than actually doing more good for the people, it would also be much more impressive bragging rights for the Matari to genuinely out perform Joint Harvesting rather than trump them in a court room.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#15 - 2012-03-05 05:13:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Los Muertas wrote:
Rek Jaiga wrote:
It saddens me that we can assemble large space fleets but struggle to feed our own. How do I know this, you may ask. Because if the Republic's domestic food-raising efforts were adequate there would be no need for Joint Harvesting in the Republic. Native Freshfoods can only do so much.


This has nothing to do with abilities or inabilities to feed the masses and everything to do with a failed political system put in place to govern a people that were never meant to live that way and hijacked by corrupt people that have no claim to the lineage of the Six Kin. End of story.


But the former is an artefact of the latter, mate.

Hmphf...It's why I've pretty much left the Republic in...aaah "non-physical"...ways as well as physically:

It's a great idea--I think Midular is unfairly maligned on some levels, at least to a degree:

I think her objective was more consolidation, not "appeasement" as is often bruit'ed about--but it seems to have gotten stuck somewhere along the wayUgh

The Shakorites' bellicose anti-intellectual hot-headedness is going too far in the other direction, though. We've got other problems within our borders to deal with...(Tarryn glares murderously) Not least of all these...collaborators...that are letting this happen.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Los Muertas
HDYLTA
#16 - 2012-03-05 05:19:00 UTC
I wont even get into the morality of what is going on here, I will simply say that as much as I hate Amarrians, even a "blood thirsty heathen" like myself can respect my enemy. I would never enter my enemies space and defile their most closely revered institutions. I will never burn my enemies holy tomes or burn their holy places yet my Enemy, and yes I am speaking to you now Uraniae, will make a case based on legal and economic grounds to do just this, in my own home. I applaud your reason and it would even make sense save for the fact that we are speaking of people, real people my dear, and of raping, lashing and tormenting those people in their own homeworlds and excusing this because it "makes good economic sense."

Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-03-05 08:48:21 UTC
Los Muertas wrote:
I wont even get into the morality of what is going on here, I will simply say that as much as I hate Amarrians, even a "blood thirsty heathen" like myself can respect my enemy. I would never enter my enemies space and defile their most closely revered institutions. I will never burn my enemies holy tomes or burn their holy places yet my Enemy, and yes I am speaking to you now Uraniae, will make a case based on legal and economic grounds to do just this, in my own home. I applaud your reason and it would even make sense save for the fact that we are speaking of people, real people my dear, and of raping, lashing and tormenting those people in their own homeworlds and excusing this because it "makes good economic sense."




I'm sorry but you're going to have to help me out here, because I don't see where I was "making a case" for condoning let alone allowing or endorsing slavery at all, within Republic space or elsewhere. I'm also positive I didn't endorse the destruction of Matari culture or the **** and torment of Matari people. In fact I made no judgments about the morality of any of this and was trying only to point out that process of "removing" Amarrian corporations from Republic space will take considerable effort no matter how it is actually accomplished. I never suggested one way or the other which course of action to take other than an overtone of hoping to see things not result in weapons fire.

Further, it is dangerous to label someone your enemy without doing some checking beforehand. No that is not a threat, and in fact I more than likely wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in a supernova if you decided to use anything more forceful than words against me, but if you did actually do any checking before calling me your enemy, you'd realize I am nothing of the sort. Yes I'm Amarrian by birth, but there is nothing I could do about that even if I wanted to change it. I have an appreciation for Matari culture, a love of it's spirituality, and a respect of it's traditions. I learn what I am allowed to learn, from those who are willing to teach me. I realize you may not believe this, so please ask around. In the end though, if you do believe me to be your enemy then demand my death and I'll offer it to you freely in the hope it will in some way help to calm your hatred.
Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#18 - 2012-03-05 13:34:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ssakaa
So many red herrings being thrown about with abandon here. Perhaps Joint harvesting might supplement their slaves' diets with them. Every bit as nutritional as hot air, I'm sure they'll be off to a hard day's labour at the plantations with a swing in their stride.

Let's go back to Rek Jaiga's questions.

So why is this happening?

No idea why. But we can tell you how. Republic Fleet are at close quarters watching this ilicit trade day in, day out, hour after hour after hour. It appears likely that they'll have their orders not to interfere, and they never do. Neither do Concord, come to that. They'll also look on passively as a right-minded capsuleer turns Bestowers to scrap metal and liberate the 'cargo'. But, be mindful -if you wish to move the now-freed slaves to a safer location in another solar system, Republic customs would like a word with you.

And before anyone asks, some Republic systems have no Matar, Gallente or SoE stations as a safe haven as in the case of Barkrik (Ani constellation).

Who is responsible for this outrage? Yes, likely most of us have heard about the 'political expediency' of this issue many times before, but any good Matar national must hold accountable all those who allow such atrocities or who formulate deals using our people's very own blood as bargaining chips.

Which leads us directly to Rek's second question, doesn't it:

Are the needs of the Matari people being met by the current leadership?

No. Clearly.

"Modern Life is Rubbish"

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#19 - 2012-03-05 14:28:32 UTC
My... god...

Are the joints ok?
Ares Renton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-05 18:39:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ares Renton
Luna Mori wrote:
Acting on intelligence provided by local Republic agents, and aided by capsuleers, private security forces located and entered a hidden agricultural plantation in the system of Barkrik today. The plantation, owned by Amarrian corporation Joint Harvesting, is reportedly worked by slaves which are known to be transported about the Ani constellation by the corporation.

Two capsuleer warships encountered fierce resistance from a defending fleet of Amarrian combat vessels bearing Imperial Navy signatures. The defending fleet was destroyed and later inspections of wreckage produced identification tags belonging to officers and ranks of the Imperial Navy.

The entire facility was then searched by landing parties but was found to be completely deserted. However, troops did find and recover the body of an undercover agent working for the Republic before the small attacking fleet withdrew from the area.

The Eight Sisters Intelligence Service continues to collect and analyse data in the search for further evidence of Joint Harvesting's involvement in slavery throughout Ani. Whether the Republic will openly respond to this situation, and the news that Imperial Navy vessels are operating in Republic space, remains to be seen. In the meantime, hardliner pilots continue to liberate slaves from Joint Harvesting convoys.

Luna Mori
General Secretary, Ani Tribal Assembly.


You monsters. My alliance has taken a personal interest in this matter and will stop at nothing to protect these joints.
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