EVE General Discussion

Once again I seem to have posted in your private social clique communique. Do forgive me.

In your haste to stand up for your leader, you've completely misread me. No, I don't think all is peachy with FiS, I wasn't even addressing that in my post. I was only calling out the obvious: that Mittani is an ambulance chasing, grand standing, egomaniac. That's all.

I anticipate the reaction to incarna may have changed some plans. We can only hope.

But yeah they undoubtedly need to finish up some things. I think they need to find good stopping points for incarna.

For example maybe they wanted everyone to be able to go into the Jita station and that is taking allot of resources to make that possible. Now maybe they will have to put a limit on the number of people in each station. Like maybe they will say after 200 people walk through "the door" it will need to be shut for the rest of the players at that station. "That room is packed so tight the door is pushed shut."

If they explain that the amount of time it would take to do otherwise would put off work on FIS I think the players would not only understand, but applaud them.


In any event I am not surprised they are keeping quiet about the future right now. If I were in their shoes I would be trying to find sensible timelines for people to wrap up their work on incarna and get back to spaceships. Once they have that figured out they should make a dev blog about it though.

Probably true; but you would have to admit he is rather good at it.

Is it a good thing for EVE that Mittens is pontificating upon the poor state of the game?

C.

Oh indeed. He's a pro-egomaniac. That's how he was able to take a lead position in one of Eve's biggest alliances. This game rewards crazy ego-maniacal behavior, for sure.

That would make a lot of sense, one can only hope. Thing is that CCP isn't very good at making sense.

I think this treads somewhat in the right direction. Personally, I would be fine with 1 expansion per year as long as it added significant content to the game.

We haven't seen any significant content that added value to the gameplay since Apocrypha. Apocrypha was an amazing expansion, and admittedly, it raised the bar significantly in terms of what players could expect form that point forward. Each expansion since has been one bug-ridden release after another, some worse than others. Yes, we've had a couple of new ships (the Noctis being the most useful in a long time), we've had Incursions which are ok. Aspests of the game were changed (like sov mechanics), nerfed (loot drops, 0.0 anoms), allowing POSes without faction standing in 0.4, new skins and models for the Scorp and Maller, and other relatively minor changes that were arguably good or bad have changed aspects of the game and how we do stuff. The only major positive change that Dominion introduced which made 0.0 liveable, and the 0.0 nerf earlier this year returned 0.0 to the worthless wasteland it used to be renmoving the reward associated with the risk of trying to make a living in 0.0. So basically now we have to deal with the bullcrap associated with Dominion sov mechanics and costs without the benefits it added.

Our most recent expansion being Incarna saw the new turret animation which are gorgeous, but most people in 0.0 turn off anyway because they're lag-inducing. They're just visual fluff for high sec bears. None of the changes any real value to the gameplay. And of course, there was the actual "Walking in Stations". I hear a lot of its supporters bitching how people who've been wanting this for years are whining about it. Had we actually gotten it, people would have been quite enthusiastic. What we got was NOT "Walking in Stations". I think the best term I read describing it best was over on evenews24 where some guy referred to it as FAMC (Forever Alone Minmatar Closet). What we got in Incarna was a lot of hype and a bug-ridden, unoptimized code base that's being beta tested on Eve's paying clientele. We're almost at the time for the winter expansion and the Incarna expansion that came out months ago is not even complete yet. The made Incarna's priority to roll out the NEX store and introduced the mechanic for MT. And of course, there was the utter contempt and disdain that CCP staff showed towards their clientele during this Monoclegate scandal that soiled their reputation. They lost a lot of subscriptions over that one. Biting the hand that feeds you repeatedly will only leave you starving to death. That's a lesson CCP hasn't really learned yet.

But over all this time, issues that have been present in the game for years are being ignored and instead we get fluff and filler material that really adds nothing. Ship and weapon balance issues that have been clearly identified for years and render 2/3 of the combat ships in the game useless are still there. Antiquated POS mechanics that have needed a change are still there. Random issues and bugs are still there and unaddressed. You'd think that as CCP grew in size, they'd also grow in experience, but they haven't. The same boneheaded issues and questionable priorities are still being made by the same people at the top who are totally out of touch with the game itself.

As a result, players are making an exodus from Eve because nothing is being done to make their subs worthwhile. From the time Incarna rolled out, I went from leading an active, 95 member 0.0 corp to having less than 20 active members in about 4 month period after Incarna. Most let their subs expire, and subsequent out of game communications with them all echo the same sentiment - they're bored with Eve because there's nothing new to do. The game was bug-ridden, constant stupid changes to mechanics were and making getting ahead and supporting themselves impossible. I eventually left my corp and moved on because of this.

So all that to say, I support this move by Mittens and the CSM. CCP utterly ignore anything both their customers and the CSM says. The only thing that gets action is their subscriptions, and the press they get. In this case, the lid has been blown off CCP's incompetence, and it will force them to react. They really have 2 choices - actually pay attention to the press they're getting and listen to their customers, which will end up making Eve better, or they can choose to continue sweeping things under the rug and hemmoraging players.

Which would be fine, except that they're still releasing expansions which are badly thought out and don't work as intended. And to make matters worse, they then ignore them in order to work on the next shiny.

FW anyone?

+1 support for Mittani, give us actual content and a meaningful Blog btw, the last 6 or so have been well non informative in the FiS world.

Fix stuff, nerf stuff, give Gallente some dam love, Open up new Jove space with super wealth and no Local to counter the super wealth. Give us new shinies.... How fecking hard can it be?

Oh wait......

Down with this sort of thing!