Crime & Punishment

the magic of docking.

I'm pretty sure wardec dodging exploits are legal so the GM department doesn't have to hurt their brains making judgement calls or understanding a single mechanic related to wardecs.

All that's really left is hoping that CCP actually puts in wardec rules that favor the aggressor. I wouldn't really count on it though.

That.

There's also the aspect that wardecs always was a tool to hit enemy logistics too, and a means for mercenaries to get job while hitting those opponents.

Another aspect is the tool to avoid GCC in lowsec when hitting a hostile POS (or players obviously), especially if your alliance for various reasons can't/won't go down the pirate path either. I know plenty of situations where regular nullsec alliances have wardecced someone to strike their nullsec POS, and situations where I myself have been dropping sec from +5 to below zero on just one POS alone.

Another prime aspect is what some of you already mentioned, the sandbox. So suddenly parts of EVE is supposed to be safe? And people can lock up moon slots in high, play completely safe, etc? How is that even remotely relevant to what this game is in the first place.. if you want safety, you play the wrong game.

Can't be arsed giving more examples, it's just beyond stupid that higher ups at CCP even consider this. Makes you wonder if they even play this game. Or have played it. Or maybe they did, but don't give a ****. Perhaps the multitude of players they gained in recent years, who want a safe carebear environment, is more important than what EVE is and always has been about.

I wonder what happened with this;
CCP Wrangler: "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for."

LMAO LOL


Dropping corp then rejoining isn't and never was an exploit. HAHAH Real.

Dock up, apply to join, undock, go around looking for a juicy wartarget. When you find one, accept the character into the corp and gank.

You only have to be docked to apply.

I'm inclined to agree with 1.5 of your points. I disagree that war decced players shouldn't be allowed to leave corp. I would be fine with a longer wait time if a war is ongoing and the bill is paid. Some wars are over dominance and there are few things more dominant than destroying the player base of another corporation. Some war deccers may be trying to decrease the playerbase of another corporation and this is a reasonable goal in many circumstances.

Its like Viagra, but its safer to use for more then 4 hours

Not ganker per se, more of a whine...distilled bitter whine.

And like any whine, it just gets better with rage

lol, no they put in rules and features that work to both sides. Remember what is used to be

1. Send wardec at a cheap ass rate of 2 mill for corp and the alliance cost if you wanted to go big
2. Wait 24 hours
3. Shoot POS, it couldn't leave alliance to extend timer as it was an exploit
4. ???
5. PROFIT!!! You won, every ******* time. You couldn't even be happy when someone just dropped corp.

Then CCP changed the rules, cause

1. They got tired of the bitching
2. They got other things to fry first

And for the OP, you said it yourself. GTFO of highsec, no worries at all of a wardec and exploitation. As for moon slots...lots of moons in highsec, to hit that particular corp, you could either OMG WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK OF THIS!!! -> raise POS fuels and or compete with industry/market (cause thats the only reason to have a POS in high, BUT you don't have to opt for easy mode SHOOT THA ****** ON SIGHT like a CoD clown...man up and compete another way to screw him over )

As I already said, neither is okay. Neutral reps need to be dealt with. Long-term NPC corp residency needs to be discouraged. And dec scraping should be abolished.

Quit justifying one moronic mechanic on the existence of another.

Money. It is all to do with new player retention. CCP believe that veterans will never unsub.

I am Dec Shield. I completely agree with the original poster. What we do is obviously an exploit, and we have challenged CCP to change the rules to prevent what we've been abusing. We have contacted the CSM and pushed for change as well. Harvesting rage ingame and on the forums has been a strategic move to raise awareness of how broken the current wardec mechanics are. All of this has been part of a massive group effort by the playebase to evoke positive change in wardec mechanics in Eve.

While the tears of griefers are amusing, we don't want to drive people out of the game. We agree with you on all accounts though. The Inferno expansion coming up is solely designed to completely revamp faction warfare and wardec mechanics. We have it from the word of the chariman of the CSM, The Mittani that CCP are working on changing wardec rules to prevent what Dec Shield does.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=792435#post792435

Our collective effort to improve the game is nearly upon us. Soon we'll be able to hang up the alliance and everyone can go back to war as it was originally intended.