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Blood and Faith

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Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-02-25 19:57:21 UTC
Mr Blake is making the common error of assuming all Sani Sabik are members of The Blood Raider Covenant and that all practitioners of the faith are the same, they are not.

And Mr Cresthill, The Black Pigs are pirates not of the Sani Sabik faith. I do however fly with them as they provide excellent support to my current activities by keeping the navy very preoccupied, its is another error of the Imperials to speak and spew forth their indoctrinated jargon without fully realising what the full picture is.

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#22 - 2012-02-25 20:10:17 UTC
Khazarn Areth wrote:
without fully realising what the full picture is.


Just how much more full of picture do we need? You are a blood cult pirate. That is what you are. You have made it plain enough.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2012-02-25 20:22:19 UTC
Khazarn Areth wrote:
Mr Blake is making the common error of assuming all Sani Sabik are members of The Blood Raider Covenant and that all practitioners of the faith are the same, they are not.

And Mr Cresthill, The Black Pigs are pirates not of the Sani Sabik faith. I do however fly with them as they provide excellent support to my current activities by keeping the navy very preoccupied, its is another error of the Imperials to speak and spew forth their indoctrinated jargon without fully realising what the full picture is.


And yet your own signature refers to "Bloody Omir"

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-02-25 20:41:58 UTC
I do not hide the fact that i am a supporter of Omir.

Mr Cresthill could you keep the hysterical outbursts to a minimum.

And would Mr Blake kindly contribute to the main topic also, again, this is not about my version of the Sani Sabik faith it is a discussion on the basic principles, the foundations if you will.

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#25 - 2012-02-25 21:03:29 UTC
Khazarn Areth wrote:
I do not hide the fact that i am a supporter of Omir.

Mr Cresthill could you keep the hysterical outbursts to a minimum.

And would Mr Blake kindly contribute to the main topic also, again, this is not about my version of the Sani Sabik faith it is a discussion on the basic principles, the foundations if you will.


The foundation, the basic principles of all Sani Sabik cults, that immortality can be obtained through hideous blood ritual, is heresy. There is no kind way of describing something so utterly dark and wrong, Mr. Areth. The very fact that you follow the ways of that sociopath Omir already shows that your spirit is perverted beyond reason. You should not expect a civilized culture to open its arms in some kind of ecumenical receptiveness to something so abhorrent. Don't expect to post a thread on this horror cult and then cry when people are not all soft and fuzzy towards it. Don't be delusional.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-02-26 07:08:22 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
Don't be delusional.


Kindly take your own advice, and stop believing you have anything to contribute to this topic or that your opinions have merit.

I believe you already started your own little concurrent thread to crow in regarding your personal beliefs, maybe go waste your time there?


Sabik now, Sabik forever

Boma Airaken
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-02-26 09:15:23 UTC
One of the things that I have learned upon becoming Amarr, especially a devotee of Ocilan Ardishapur. Semantics are very important. So it would be very helpful to everyone if the Sani Sabik and Blooders could be a bit more clear.

If you are Sani Sabik, be Sani Sabik, stop saying it is a ******* covenant and that you idolize Omir.

If you are a Blooder, stop calling yourself Sani Sabik, at least out of respect for the toes in the water folk mentioned above.

Or maybe the Sani Sabik and the Blood Raider Covenant can have a war to straighten this **** out for the rest of us. It is getting tedious.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2012-02-26 10:05:29 UTC
Khazarn Areth wrote:


And would Mr Blake kindly contribute to the main topic also, again, this is not about my version of the Sani Sabik faith it is a discussion on the basic principles, the foundations if you will.


Your question was "what does Sani Sabik mean to you," and I answered that question.

Now you may not like my answer, but it's true that when I think of Sani Sabik I think of atrocities like the unprovoked attack on Mabnen I carried out by Sanik Sabik cultists.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Aodha Khan
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-02-26 11:07:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Aodha Khan
Rodj Blake wrote:
The Sani Sabik are the among the filthiest of dogs.

Anyone who doubts this should cast their minds back to the events of June and July 107.


One can only hope the Sabik shall bring their wrath once again against those supporting the Empire and its like.

When that day comes, I shall be there Mr Blake, just like in 107. Its only a matter of time now....

Power is not something that is granted - it is something to be taken.

Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-02-26 11:18:39 UTC
'The Mabnen Incident on the ninth day of June, when a chemical attack led to shocking destruction on the planet of Mabnen I in the Amarr Empire. Beginning with the distribution of an aerosol agent into the atmosphere of Mabnen I, centered on the Hemlock Field complex of slave colonies, the attack was initially thought to have been foiled when the vessels releasing the chemical were shot down by Amarr security forces. This assumption was shown to be premature as a number of slave colonies experienced rioting and were soon in flames. By mid-morning, seven of the twelve colonies in the vast complex were out of communication with Amarr authorities and the military was being called in to restore order.

At noon, Omir Sarikusa broadcast a statement claiming full responsibility for the attack on Mabnen I, revealing that the Blood Raider Covenant had released an aerosol form of the Insorum drug into the atmosphere of the planet. There was no reaction from the Amarr Empire to this claim but reports suggested that Emperor Doriam II had begun a series of emergency meetings with his top advisors. As the day wore on, Mabnen I descended into chaos. Rebelling slaves spilled out of the colonies and wrought havoc across the affected region.

Citizens of the Minmatar Republic reacted with joy to the news of the slave revolts, hailing Insorum as a cure for the scourge of Vitoc.'

-YC107 report into the Mabnen incident of June that year.

Two sides of the coin Mr Blake, whilst you see losing control of a few colonies of slaves an atrocity the Minmatar Republic rejoiced with the news their brothers and sisters were free, the fact that they took revenge on your people for their barbaric treatment is hardly surprising.

And let us not also reflect and rejoice in the news that in the following month Doriam II was slain by unknown assassins.

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Blood Onyx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-02-26 15:21:52 UTC
What is the difference between a Sani Sabik, a Blood Raider, and a follower of the core Amarrian faith?

An Amarrian judges all by their standards and attempts to force his beliefs on others. A Blooder acts as they believe is correct, takes want they want and does as they wish, answering to no one. A Sabik acts on their own beliefs, but does not presume to evangelise or consider themselves to be above all reproach.

I feel disappointed. So much mindless hate and repetition of the official line, with no thought present.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2012-02-26 17:18:46 UTC
Blood Onyx wrote:
A Sabik acts on their own beliefs, but does not presume to evangelise or consider themselves to be above all reproach.


You've clearly never encountered the same self-proclaimed Sani Sabik cultists as I have then...

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-02-26 19:04:36 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Blood Onyx wrote:
A Sabik acts on their own beliefs, but does not presume to evangelise or consider themselves to be above all reproach.


You've clearly never encountered the same self-proclaimed Sani Sabik cultists as I have then...


Onyx has the gist of the differences quite right, but unfortunately Blake is correct in criticizing that particular sentence.



Sabik now, Sabik forever

Blood Onyx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-02-27 13:51:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Blood Onyx
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Blood Onyx wrote:
A Sabik acts on their own beliefs, but does not presume to evangelise or consider themselves to be above all reproach.


You've clearly never encountered the same self-proclaimed Sani Sabik cultists as I have then...


Onyx has the gist of the differences quite right, but unfortunately Blake is correct in criticizing that particular sentence.


Then allow me to rephrase and clarify; a Sani Sabik has some degree of wisdom born of centuries of persecution and hatred. Those that have not cultured this either have nothing to fear, in which case they either are, or are little different from, a Blooder; or they soon die, and can be disregarded.

The belief of one's own superiority is a centrepoint of Sani Sabik. The ability of the strong to reshape the universe through pure will inevitably implies the existence of the weak. This does not necessarily mean that we can operate without consequence, or afford to entirely ignore the reproaches of others - whether we believe those reproaches to be valid or not.
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#35 - 2012-02-27 14:09:00 UTC
Blood Onyx wrote:
The belief of one's own superiority is a centrepoint of Sani Sabik.


This is the delusion of Sani Sabik. To believe that engaging in the depravity of blood ritual and then to self-designate it as "superior" is the height of megalomania and egoism.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)

Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-02-27 14:55:14 UTC
Oh so the xenophobic, warmongering, slaver calls us egotistical megalomaniacs?

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#37 - 2012-02-27 15:43:58 UTC
Khazarn Areth wrote:
Oh so the xenophobic, warmongering, slaver calls us egotistical megalomaniacs?


Xenophobic? No, true Amarrians embrace all people to bring them to God.
Warmongering? No, our battles serve only to bring people to peace with God.
Slaver? No, Holders of those wandering ones who are precious to God.

Khazarn Areth, you are an egotistical megalomaniac as are all those who led by the deception of their own self-godhood.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)

Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2012-02-27 15:54:11 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
Khazarn Areth wrote:
Oh so the xenophobic, warmongering, slaver calls us egotistical megalomaniacs?


Xenophobic? No, true Amarrians embrace all people to bring them to God.
Warmongering? No, our battles serve only to bring people to peace with God.
Slaver? No, Holders of those wandering ones who are precious to God.

Khazarn Areth, you are an egotistical megalomaniac as are all those who led by the deception of their own self-godhood.


Deception? i think it is you who have been duped by the theology council into thinking your actions are justified by gods will, that your actions are not your own, they most certianly are Mr Cresthill and no amount of holy ramblings can save you or your kin.

Prehaps one day you will see the light before you become lost in your own delusion, you have free will Mr Cresthill but you are not yet free.

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#39 - 2012-02-27 16:08:32 UTC
Khazarn Areth wrote:
you have free will Mr Cresthill but you are not yet free.


I am indeed free; free to serve God and others as His servant. You, however, are a slave to your own depravity.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)

Blood Onyx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2012-02-27 16:33:48 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
Blood Onyx wrote:
The belief of one's own superiority is a centrepoint of Sani Sabik.


This is the delusion of Sani Sabik. To believe that engaging in the depravity of blood ritual and then to self-designate it as "superior" is the height of megalomania and egoism.


In other words... to consider oneself superior by right of willpower and symbolism is entirely wrong.

Fair enough. Entirely different from the belief of superiority through bloodline and religious enlightenment giving you the right to conquer entire civilisations and rewrite their societies.

...perfect sense.