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A Hamrite Journey (formerly: Amarr for the Glory of God)
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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#321 - 2012-04-11 20:27:40 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
You speak of murder, Ms Goldcore. What of the murder of an entire planet's population that the Amarr Navy was about to conduct? Would you destroy an Navy detachment of ships to save an entire planet? Or do you want to stick your head in the sand and try to whitewash the horror of that as well as that of vitoxin? You are not a benevolent slaveholder, Ms. "Benevolent Slaveholder" is an oxymoron. At one time, I thought I was the epitome of a benevolent slaveholder. I have come to believe that slave holding can never be benevolent for it is a denial at its base of what it means to be human.


You are starting to fall into rambling and unrelated issues. Focus yourself, finely tuned, like a laser, or be little better than a flashlight.
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#322 - 2012-04-11 20:45:22 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:

You are starting to fall into rambling and unrelated issues. Focus yourself, finely tuned, like a laser, or be little better than a flashlight.


In all seriousness, I would like to know more of what exactly you mean. If here is not the best place to say it, send me an evemail.
Thanks

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#323 - 2012-04-11 21:20:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
In all seriousness, I would like to know more of what exactly you mean. If here is not the best place to say it, send me an evemail.
Thanks


A laser emits only a single wavelength of light in a very focused beam. A flashlight emits light over the entire visible light spectrum over a very wide spread. This is why a laser can illuminate an object for full power much farther away than a flashlight can reach effectively.

It also means, shush... you're rambling.

Katrina Oniseki
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#324 - 2012-04-11 21:22:35 UTC
A flashlight also doesn't cut into the issues its facing, it just bounces harmlessly off.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#325 - 2012-04-11 21:23:27 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
A flashlight also doesn't cut into the issues its facing, it just bounces harmlessly off.


It does illuminate them, however.

Katrina Oniseki
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#326 - 2012-04-11 23:00:05 UTC
It shouldn't be much of a suprize that he isn't exactly the most focused or stable person. After all, you would have to be a fairly neglegent and, by all means, absolutely childish to be a holder and not know what your doing. I think Mr. Cresthill needs to spend some proper time with the scriptures and think carefully about his life.

Though, to answer your question Cresthill, yes, if it would truely save a planet the price of a few ships is acceptable. However, and this is the important part, i would have to be damn sure I was actually saving the population from certain death and there was no other option. It shows only the shear depth of your ignorance that you claim what you did was saving anyone. Considering it may take more time to secure a proper batch of vitoc for the slaves who needed it most, you may very well have been at fault for the death of millions. If not death the torturous pain. You are not a hero of a world, your a kid with matches playing with something you don't begin to understand.

So lets look at your accomplishments

1, Commiting treason to ones country.
2, Attacking a supply convoy carring vital medicine for those who need it.
3, May be responcable for killing millions of the people you claim to care about.

Very well done.

The sad part is I am sure you feel proud of this.
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#327 - 2012-04-12 01:47:12 UTC
Goldcore, also recovered were the viral canisters prepared for atmospheric dispersal over the target planet. Those canisters were the the target of the mission. The vitoc was discovered while searching the wreckage for survivors. You speak as one desperate to defend a way of life you are not convinced is right. I pray to God that you will find the courage to face your doubts and change your course. I understand your naivete regarding the empire and slavery. Just open your heart a crack and perhaps some light will come in.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#328 - 2012-04-12 15:48:47 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
You speak of murder, Ms Goldcore. What of the murder of an entire planet's population that the Amarr Navy was about to conduct? Would you destroy an Navy detachment of ships to save an entire planet? Or do you want to stick your head in the sand and try to whitewash the horror of that as well as that of vitoxin? You are not a benevolent slaveholder, Ms. "Benevolent Slaveholder" is an oxymoron. At one time, I thought I was the epitome of a benevolent slaveholder. I have come to believe that slave holding can never be benevolent for it is a denial at its base of what it means to be human.


Your claims don't make a lot of sense.

Why would anyone transport Vitoc to a planet that they're about to depopulate?

And besides, even if what you say is true (and frankly I doubt it) I'd like to remind that there's a war on. Minmatar forces have been attempting to deploy similar attacks on Amarrian planets for years.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#329 - 2012-04-12 15:53:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Theobar Cresthill
Rodj Blake wrote:

Your claims don't make a lot of sense.

Why would anyone transport Vitoc to a planet that they're about to depopulate?

And besides, even if what you say is true (and frankly I doubt it) I'd like to remind that there's a war on. Minmatar forces have been attempting to deploy similar attacks on Amarrian planets for years.


Please pay attention. The Vitoc was not for the planet as said earlier. The planet was in Gallente territory. The Amarrian fleet was attacking a Gallente planet. The Vitoc was for vitoxin infected ship crews as said earlier.

Edit: quote format issues

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#330 - 2012-04-12 15:58:41 UTC
Restitution

I have reached another small objective in the overall path of restitution. Earlier, corporation standing change was mentioned. Today, faction standing is the focus. Servant Sisters of Eve is now the faction of highest standing for me.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#331 - 2012-04-12 16:08:37 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

Your claims don't make a lot of sense.

Why would anyone transport Vitoc to a planet that they're about to depopulate?

And besides, even if what you say is true (and frankly I doubt it) I'd like to remind that there's a war on. Minmatar forces have been attempting to deploy similar attacks on Amarrian planets for years.


Please pay attention. The Vitoc was not for the planet as said earlier. The planet was in Gallente territory. The Amarrian fleet was attacking a Gallente planet. The Vitoc was for vitoxin infected ship crews as said earlier.

Edit: quote format issues


Wait.

Are you trying to claim that you singlehanded stopped an Amarrian war fleet that was coming after a Gallentean territory outside of the warzone?

Really?
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#332 - 2012-04-12 16:38:57 UTC
I think he is delusional. The fact he made such an about face of beliefs shows just how weak minded he really is. Obviously he has no sense left in his head because what he is saying makes absoluetly none!

I am a Divine Commodore for the 24th Imperial crusade and have lead many millitary actions. I have never come across a situation whereas virus bombing a planet was a reasonable solution to any problem. There is no reason I could think of where this becomes a proper option, even from a military point of view.

Now is that to say that virus bombs aren't used as a weapon? no, they are, just about every major faction in the cluster uses them as they are an effective way to weaken hardened targets. However their use doesn't include comically silly tactics you describe at all! Most military complexes have some degree of bio security to them so spreading over an entire planet would fail miserably to actually destroy the intended target. In addition the Empire doesn't need a full on war with the federation right now.

So basically.... From all points of view, tactically, politically, and logically what you say makes absolutely no sense. So we have only 2 options.

Your a liar who will say anything to prove a point that is vauge and unclear to begin with.
Your delusional who thinks them-self some kind hero.

Either way, I doubt you will listen to anything I, or anyone else has to say unless it agrees with you. So I wont waste my time here unless you change a bit.
Jev North
Doomheim
#333 - 2012-04-12 16:52:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jev North
Yes. Pure nonsense. It's well-known Amarr warships never stray from the borders of the Empire, and carry only cotton candy, stuffed toys, and care packages for orphaned children.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#334 - 2012-04-12 17:20:21 UTC
These are the ships I destroyed stopping the atmospheric poisoning. They came in three waves as I positioned myself between them and the planet they were targeting. The task was completed using a Harbinger. Those who are familiar with the vessel know that it is quite up to the task with a simple fitting and level one drones.

3x frigate (Imperial Matendi)
2x frigate (Imperial Paladin)
2x frigate (Imperial Forian)
1x frigate (Imperial Felix)


3x frigate (Imperial Matendi)
2x frigate (Imperial Paladin)
2x frigate (Imperial Forian)
1x frigate (Imperial Felix)
1x interceptor (Divine Imperial Nabih)
2x industrial


4x frigate (Imperial Paladin)
2x frigate (Imperial Felix)
1x frigate (Imperial Caius)
1x interceptor (Divine Imperial Nabih)
2x industrial

One side note: Since I have not heard back from E.M., I am giving the Vitoc to the Sisters. They are on the forefront of Vitoxin research.


"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#335 - 2012-04-13 11:20:42 UTC
So let's get this straight.

You're claiming that The Sisters of Eve, a supposedly neutral organisation, ordered you to fire upon vessels belonging to the Imperial Navy.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#336 - 2012-04-13 12:42:55 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
So let's get this straight.

You're claiming that The Sisters of Eve, a supposedly neutral organisation, ordered you to fire upon vessels belonging to the Imperial Navy.


I didn't tell you who assigned me the mission. I am doing most but not all of my work through the SIsters. This particular mission was not through the SOE.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#337 - 2012-04-13 12:45:50 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
So let's get this straight.

You're claiming that The Sisters of Eve, a supposedly neutral organisation, ordered you to fire upon vessels belonging to the Imperial Navy.


I didn't tell you who assigned me the mission. I am doing most but not all of my work through the SIsters. This particular mission was not through the SOE.


So who did give you the orders?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#338 - 2012-04-13 13:07:56 UTC
I was once told by a former, high ranking member of PIE, that your organization has spies and operatives all over the Cluster. I am sure you do not need me to tell you who assigned me this mission. Use your advanced intelligence gathering capabilities, skills in deduction, and so forth to figure it out as if you do not already know.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#339 - 2012-04-13 13:13:49 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
I was once told by a former, high ranking member of PIE, that your organization has spies and operatives all over the Cluster. I am sure you do not need me to tell you who assigned me this mission. Use your advanced intelligence gathering capabilities, skills in deduction, and so forth to figure it out as if you do not already know.


Oh, so you're suddenly embarrassed by the people you associate with.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#340 - 2012-04-13 13:15:14 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
I was once told by a former, high ranking member of PIE, that your organization has spies and operatives all over the Cluster. I am sure you do not need me to tell you who assigned me this mission. Use your advanced intelligence gathering capabilities, skills in deduction, and so forth to figure it out as if you do not already know.


You are now showing signs of advanced paranoia.