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One idea would be to allow players to bet on the outcome of a fight in said arena and perhaps even enable the streaming of the arena battles to the CQ screens or a big screen in the public areas.

Trade Hubs and the like do NOT have to be decentralized for WIS to work, especially for establishments.

Lets take two possible (similar) establishments in Jita 4-4.

Joe's Fun House:

Max Occupancy: 128
Cover Charge: None
Entrance Criteria: Neutral or Positive Security Status only.
Style: Open, tables and booths, well lit, floor plan B, Caldari Theme B.
Security Level: High
Facilities/Services: 4 different minigames, alcoholic beverages, food, music, market interfaces.
Staff: Bartender, waitresses.

Here we have an establishment that caters to the masses in a busy market hub. The owner pays for a space large enough to have a high occupancy (before people are turned away at the door), has a pleasant decor, and makes its money by being a social hub for gaming/socializing/entertainment as well as allowing standard market access while inside. Note that they do not pay a hefty fee for direct access to the hanger deck so patrons need to exit the establishment prior to undocking.

The Drunken Clam:

Max Occupancy: 16
Cover Charge: Moderate
Entrance Criteria: Standings based, no security status restrictions.
Style: Compact, booths, dimly lit/smokey, floor plan D, Minmatar Theme A
Security Level: Low
Facilities/Services: 1 minigame, alcoholic beverages, booster trade allowed, market interfaces, neutral locator agent, direct access to hanger bay.
Staff: Bartender, exotic dancers.

Here we have a small establishment that charges a cover charge for entry, only allows a limited number of people at one time, pays to keep Concord out (allowing booster trafficing), has a locator agent on staff whose services are not standings based, and pays for hanger deck access so that patron may exit directly to their ships.


Both establishments pay monthly fee's to remain open in addition to their initial costs based on floorplan, max occupancy, and services.

Both establishments earn income for their owners in different ways, and have a distictly individual flavor to them (allowing great diversity even with multiple establishments of the same type in the same station.

Neither cares what the current population of Jita is as they have limits as to maximum occupancy, although the volume and type of traffic present in the system has a direct bearing on how they are designed.

In essence, establishments could be handled similar to DUST matchs in terms of how to handle the issue of multiple Avatars being present in a single location.

Nice suggestion, I like. CCP, there have been many posts supporting both establishments and the booster trade idea. I do not think you should set these aside out of fear of "stubbornly keeping to that plan". From the feedback here many players would welcome their addition to the game. In addition, its something for which assets have already been developed and hence could be done sooner rather than later.

Remember all the rage about Incarna was not because of establishments and booster trade, it was because we DID NOT get any of that, but instead got just one avatar that could do little more than wander around one room.

**** really! You have so high technologies, why you dont use it ?!

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at the moment there is only one (and one thing only) that I really want to see in WiS and that's war rooms.

3D holographic maps that are updated by your gang mates, and where you serve as a comm officer.



damn that would be great.

Now this might sound like the ravings of a mad man (which might not be too far off the mark )

Ever since I came across the "Walking in stations" idea for the very first time, I have had the vision of actually being in the office of my agent, and having a conversation with him/her, and depending on your standings, skills, and what ever other factors might come into play, actually haggling about the pay of a mission, and/or even getting away with turning a mission down more often than others, if you talk to the agent just right.

This could be done by being given a number of phrases to say to the agent, when the agent is listening, and the outcome would depend on the course of the conversation, throw in some random factors to make it interesting.

This might even be used to influence which type of mission you want, like "I need some fast ISK", "I dont want to fight Gallente anymore", and stuff like that.

The conversation bit could be expanded/modified over time, to add new things to say, use your imagination.

I know this would be no small part to make, but at least it is a rather significant part of many pilots game play.

Ideas, comments, and general feedback is welcome, as always.

very, very nice idea...
Where to sign?

I would love to meet my agent person to person, but actual talking that have results is plus on that.

Although I don't know how much I will participate in WiS, I still think it is a good idea. EVE needs to continue to grow horizontally, instead of vertically, with bigger and more powerful ships in each expansion. That's not how a sandbox works.

WiS has to tie well into the game, and have actual things to do. If it is only a meeting space, it will fail, just as every meeting space in other games have failed. Turns out people would rather continue playing the game while socializing, meeting, planning, etc, using already established in- and out-of game tools. There is no benefit to be gained traveling half way across the world (or galaxy) just to get facetime in computer games. And I hope no crazy efforts to subvert existing mechanics and social-engineer people to do so will be made.

edit: I write gud

That would be great, but also would be abused to death, with mission runners learning to dial the winner dialogue options. The system would never be cunning enough to outmaster your average Human Mk.1, unless it was random... although, that could be funny as hell... I can imagine EVE Survival's tips...

"(Insert agent name) is 60% responsive to bribing, 45% responsive to harrassment and 30% responsive to sexual offers; also is 80% punitive to failed sexual offers, 60% punitive to failed harrasment and 20% punitive to failed bribing. Remember that success in triggering the lesser responsiveness will grant the higher rewards"

Then, that agent would be worth trying to bribe (maximum chance to succeed and mimimum to be penalyzed), but also could give some clues... say, if is wearing expensive clothes, that means either is wiliing to get money or feels insecure... so could be good idea to bribe or harrass the agent...

Damn, I am getting carried.