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Why Fly Gallente?

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Annie Anomie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#201 - 2012-03-02 17:35:19 UTC
Because the DPS makes you giggle.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#202 - 2012-03-02 17:38:27 UTC
Sir Lomax wrote:
Fed comet kinda sucks in like most ways.
Fed Navy Comet is win! It's the only true skirmish vessel in the Gallente lineup.

highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#203 - 2012-03-02 17:39:55 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Sir Lomax wrote:
Fed comet kinda sucks in like most ways.
Fed Navy Comet is win! It's the only true skirmish vessel in the Gallente lineup.




eehh.... idk

i would take an ishkur or enyo over the comet.

in fact... i did.

the comet is waaay too expensive

FC, what do?

Sir Lomax
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#204 - 2012-03-02 17:57:48 UTC
highonpop wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Sir Lomax wrote:
Fed comet kinda sucks in like most ways.
Fed Navy Comet is win! It's the only true skirmish vessel in the Gallente lineup.




eehh.... idk

i would take an ishkur or enyo over the comet.

in fact... i did.

the comet is waaay too expensive



What he said... Comet is someone with too much money and not enough skill to fly the assault frigs

If thats the case.. just buy like 6 Incurses for the same price as 1 comet, fit them all different ways and "lol your way" untill you have skills to fly a assault ship.

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#205 - 2012-03-02 18:50:50 UTC
Sir Lomax wrote:
highonpop wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Sir Lomax wrote:
Fed comet kinda sucks in like most ways.
Fed Navy Comet is win! It's the only true skirmish vessel in the Gallente lineup.




eehh.... idk

i would take an ishkur or enyo over the comet.

in fact... i did.

the comet is waaay too expensive



What he said... Comet is someone with too much money and not enough skill to fly the assault frigs

If thats the case.. just buy like 6 Incurses for the same price as 1 comet, fit them all different ways and "lol your way" untill you have skills to fly a assault ship.



Comet has its niche between the Taranis and the Enyo. Midpoint on both damage and speed, especially if MSE-tanked. It is also tankier than the Taranis.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Vixorz
Cabronazos
#206 - 2012-03-02 18:58:46 UTC
Quote:
Comet has its niche between the Taranis and the Enyo. Midpoint on both damage and speed, especially if MSE-tanked. It is also tankier than the Taranis.


And you can go everywhere screaming: "This is the police! Freeze!"

Big blinking front light counts too. Lol

PS: -1 for me because i forgot to mention the "Tanaris". Oops
Sir Lomax
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#207 - 2012-03-02 20:24:18 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Sir Lomax wrote:
highonpop wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Sir Lomax wrote:
Fed comet kinda sucks in like most ways.
Fed Navy Comet is win! It's the only true skirmish vessel in the Gallente lineup.




eehh.... idk

i would take an ishkur or enyo over the comet.

in fact... i did.

the comet is waaay too expensive



What he said... Comet is someone with too much money and not enough skill to fly the assault frigs

If thats the case.. just buy like 6 Incurses for the same price as 1 comet, fit them all different ways and "lol your way" untill you have skills to fly a assault ship.



Comet has its niche between the Taranis and the Enyo. Midpoint on both damage and speed, especially if MSE-tanked. It is also tankier than the Taranis.



The El Camino Of the Skys to say.. Neither good as being a truck, or good at going fast.

The Mullet of the Galaxy... Biz up front ... party in the back...

Your right, its between those two ships. Sadly Eve does not reward "jack of all trades" ships in this game. Unless its a command ship or T3.. then its kinda OP all the time. :)
Sir Lomax
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#208 - 2012-03-02 20:28:22 UTC
Vixorz wrote:
Quote:
Comet has its niche between the Taranis and the Enyo. Midpoint on both damage and speed, especially if MSE-tanked. It is also tankier than the Taranis.


And you can go everywhere screaming: "This is the police! Freeze!"

Big blinking front light counts too. Lol

PS: -1 for me because i forgot to mention the "Tanaris". Oops


Absolutly!... Screaming "PULL OVA !" on coms will never get old. I mean that.

... I'm not alowed to have comets anymore... Sad
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#209 - 2012-03-02 20:28:33 UTC
Sir Lomax wrote:
Your right, its between those two ships. Sadly Eve does not reward "jack of all trades" ships in this game. Unless its a command ship or T3.. then its kinda OP all the time. :)

Or a Rifter, or a Drake, or a Dramiel, or... enough yet?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#210 - 2012-03-02 20:44:19 UTC
I'm pretty sure THIS is how to Comet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJJXZUcQ4GQ&feature=context&context=C3cdd77eUDOEgsToPDskKNGkMmjtNU44rmac0bByTU

Not my work. Hahb's just r*ping face in his rail Comet.

Solo Rifter since 2009

Sir Lomax
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#211 - 2012-03-02 21:01:37 UTC
Ok.. i stand corrected.. Micro W comet vs a rifter, blackbird and a throrax makes it a great ship.

Just think of the damage he could have caused if it was a enyo with those rails?

Kinda my point... yea in the right hands its a better than average ship... but a assault frig in those hands could have ruled the day.
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#212 - 2012-03-03 02:39:05 UTC
Sir Lomax wrote:
Ok.. i stand corrected.. Micro W comet vs a rifter, blackbird and a throrax makes it a great ship.

Just think of the damage he could have caused if it was a enyo with those rails?

Kinda my point... yea in the right hands its a better than average ship... but a assault frig in those hands could have ruled the day.


Navy Faction (and other ships) have their place in FW. AFs are not allowed in minor plexes so the comet is a hardy ship for a minor. The dessy buff has kinda hurt all frigs though.

Now if they would exclude pirate faction ships the same way they do T2, I'd be happy.

Back to the Gallente thing - again - for FW plex fights they have their place. Blasters melt face on FW gates. The ships in general need tweaks, as does blaster tracking. The Brutix needs some tweaks like all T1 BC, but it's an underestimated small gang DPS ship.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Annie Anomie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#213 - 2012-03-03 11:16:39 UTC
The Comet has it's own niche in between the AFs and inties.

It is fragile but it's DPS is pretty eye watering.

I think of it as the uber Taranis.
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#214 - 2012-03-03 11:30:49 UTC
Sir Lomax wrote:
Ok.. i stand corrected.. Micro W comet vs a rifter, blackbird and a throrax makes it a great ship.

Just think of the damage he could have caused if it was a enyo with those rails?

Kinda my point... yea in the right hands its a better than average ship... but a assault frig in those hands could have ruled the day.


He's got other Comet videos doing similar nasty things in it. The Navy faction frigs as a whole serve niche roles somewhere between ceptors and AF's. Within it's class, the Comet is solid and viable in many engagements.

Solo Rifter since 2009

Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#215 - 2012-03-03 13:16:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Sebastian N Cain
highonpop wrote:
I'm wondering if there is any real advantage to flying Gallente? outside of an Itty V

I have a ton of skill points in hybrids/drones/gallente and they all seem pretty useless. When I was doing high sec pvp, most of the kills I was on in fleets I was one of the last ones on because I was never in range.

Now that I'm doing nullsec pvp, everyone seems to be in love with projectiles and drakes.


so.


is there really anything good to come from flying gallente?

They work well in NvN (noob vs noob) because there are tons of screwups you can use as a gallente pilot to win.

Outside of that they are marvelous for providing your enemies with killmails.

Also they are neccessary to get the angel ships.

On top of it you have to do them to get the gallente caps and supercaps.

So: you don´t really fly them but there is good stuff you need the gallente skills for anyways.

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.

Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#216 - 2012-03-03 14:42:53 UTC
Sebastian N Cain wrote:
highonpop wrote:
I'm wondering if there is any real advantage to flying Gallente? outside of an Itty V

I have a ton of skill points in hybrids/drones/gallente and they all seem pretty useless. When I was doing high sec pvp, most of the kills I was on in fleets I was one of the last ones on because I was never in range.

Now that I'm doing nullsec pvp, everyone seems to be in love with projectiles and drakes.


so.


is there really anything good to come from flying gallente?

They work well in NvN (noob vs noob) because there are tons of screwups you can use as a gallente pilot to win.

Outside of that they are marvelous for providing your enemies with killmails.

Also they are neccessary to get the angel ships.

On top of it you have to do them to get the gallente caps and supercaps.

So: you don´t really fly them but there is good stuff you need the gallente skills for anyways.




Best answer/explanation ever.

By the way I'm very curious to know exact and serious numbers on test accounts (and not another pesky alt created with 10min mail accounts).
How many of each race stay/leave at the end of test period, how many choose to train another race just after test period and witch one etc, this would absolutely not indicate the difficulty level of starting Gallente but would very likely indicate how friendly some race can be versus another, maybe improve or create new tools and maybe win some new spaceship targ... woot...friends.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#217 - 2012-03-04 17:25:21 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Sir Lomax wrote:
What he said... Comet is someone with too much money and not enough skill to fly the assault frigs
As a FW pilot, Comets are cheap for me. But I didn't know isk was part of the equation here.

If anybody says they love the Taranis, they should also say they love the Comet. Comets > Taranis hands down for solo fighting.

Comets are also harder to pin down than assault frigs (faster, better align time), making them really good skirmish vessels. AFs are slower and align less quickly which means they have a higher chance of getting caught.

Edit: Also, Comet fits only two rails and therefore has more CPU available for midslots. It can fit up a td which helps greatly to mitigate dps, and it has drones which work well in difficult situations (e-war), but drones get popped easily too. Cry

However, in a slugfest, AFs > Faction Frigs, so don't do the dps*EHP thing against AFs. Also, resist bonus from Gallente/Caldari AFs means you (as a comet pilot) only engage them if you have backup around - because you're not going to do any real damage against them.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#218 - 2012-03-05 11:19:20 UTC

Proteus seems to be doing rather well in wspace. Nr.1 on Ducks, CCRES and ADHC boards, and in top three of the rest.







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Nikuno
Atomic Heroes
#219 - 2012-03-05 13:37:04 UTC
Roime wrote:

Proteus seems to be doing rather well in wspace. Nr.1 on Ducks, CCRES and ADHC boards, and in top three of the rest.


The Proteus has always been the one exception to the Gallente blaster ship line up, which only serves to emphasise further that the problem now rests primarliy with tweaking the hulls themselves and leaving the guns alone - with the exception of medium rails which still need their fitting requirements dropped a tad.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#220 - 2012-03-05 14:11:30 UTC
As there is nothing wrong with blaster frigates, maybe it would be useful to discuss the specific ships people see as problematic?

Catalyst? Are there even other dessies besides the Cat & Trasher?

Thorax? T1 cruisers all have a somewhat limited role in the grand scheme of things, but I honestly don't think Thorax is the worst cruiser. It's not a Vexor or a Rupture, but better than the rest.

Brutix? Probably the most used tier 1 BC.

Talos? Blatantly rocks.

Deimos? Seems to get a lot of use post-Crucible.

Vigilant? Same as above.

Megathron? King of cheap close range combat.

Vindicator? King of expensive close range combat. Sees a lot of use in wspace, one of the most wanted Incursion ships.

Hyperion has a slot layout issue, but does seem to work rather well in the right hands. Check Heretic Army's kb for an example.

Situation doesn't really look that bad imo.

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