Ships & Modules

Weaknesses such as? Their smaller sig radius, faster ships, easiest fitting of all races? Or was it perhaps how great autos and especially the alpha on arties?

So what weakness is is again?


I fly minnie and i think that they need a nerf. Or atleast others deserve a buff.

Caldari with the incoming drake tank nerf, really has crap pvp ships. Raven is used for mostly pve, Tengu is expensive and not used in large fleets.

Rook and falcon.. ecm, only need a couple per fleet. Hacs.. Cerb is so so.. just a slightly better caracal. Eagle is just junk.. pure and utter junk.

Rokh is bested by a megathron, Ferox gets autos half the time.

Caldari lore wise are supposed to be superior in some ways, are the worst of the races.

Though Harpy and Hawk are now pretty darn nice. Missiles need a rework as well.

The brutix could use a little more PG as well. At best with no implants or ancil router and with a 1600 plate, you can get electrons.
If you dual rep it, then Ions.. If you want Neutrons, your going to need implant and anci routers. All fits with a MWD.

Sure you can shield tank it, but its a crap shield tank at best.

At all L5 a shield brutix with 1LSE and 1 Invuln can get 50k EHP, on par with a hurricane with far more DPS at the cost of range
850+ DPS... I still think that the best fit for the brutix ATM is shield tanked since with a 1600mm it loses so much of its DPS.

Shield fit, the brutix is short 20 PG (L5 engineering) to go implantless/without ancillary rig.

Winmatar are definitely the PvPfaction. It's ironic that only winmatar pilots can defend them while most other players agree that somethink is wrong here. What makes them oh so good?

1. You can't be wrong by focusing on winmatar ships. They have great T1 frigates, destroyer, cruisers, BC, BS, great T2 frigs and cruisers of all sorts. If they are not best in some categories than they are second to best (T3, cars)
2. Projectiles are the best weapon ingame. You can argue that some weapons are better in some causes, but let's face it: noone can deny that if ship has no bonuses to weapon type or those bonuses are weak every sane pilot gonna fit AC there. Noone will ever suggest putting Lasers or Hybrids on winmatar ship. Also artillery ship have better alfa than 2 same class Rail/Hybrid/Missile ships (Sometimes 3x more).
3. Best resist profiles of all T2 ships. Independence from enemy resists, just choose any damage type you want.
4. Extremelly generous fitting stats on ships. While some winmatar ships require a little extra work for fitting all the candies winmatar pilot can imagine, most other ships require much more work to fit just basic needed systems.
5. Cap-independant non-sucking dps.
6. Higher speed and smaller signature on most/all ships with no trade-offs most of the time.
7. Best pirate ships use winmatar weapons, winmatar skills and winmatar design patterns. Clearly it's all about Gallente!

On a side note:
1. Best industrials. Fastest of all with good cargo.
2. Excellent PvE ships: Vargur and co.

The only think that makes this tolerable is that any player can fly any ship. Too bad winmatar ships are so ugly, sometimes I doubt if they was made by same art team that made all other ships (To be fair, some are nice: Rifter, Firetail, Maelstrom, Loki, Tornado). More and more this game becomes homogenised in winmatar ships and/or winmatar weapons.

Fun part: winmatar players can only beat same long-time dead horses (even undead at some point):
1. Typhoon. The least used winmatar BS noone cares about, that stil great in almost most aspects and not so hard to fit.
2. Blasters do more damage and lasers have better range. Well, you can't expect your weapon have best damage, range, tracking, fitting reqs, famage types all the same time. Still everyone and their dog use AC.
3. Flavours and so. Winmatar flavour is overall awesomness multiplied by low time requirements.
4. Tengu!!!1111oneone!! Because God forbids non-winmatar ship to be better.

Kind of funny, but the Brutor doesn't look anything remotely near Tuareg or Somalian. Even my white grandmother looks more Somalian than a Brutor. Congolese? Yes, I can buy that.

I would prefer it gained a 7th turret and had the ether RoF or Damage bonus changed to falloff, tracking or some such.

I would also like to see the Harbinger get a different bonus then Cap say 7.5% Optimal like the Apoc.

I think that would help balance between the four and keep all 4 Ships viable. As for the Tier 1's they are getting the Balance hammer so I won't speculate. Except to say Armor Rep on the Brutix should be different, leave that to the Mrym.