Ships & Modules

Am I missing something glaringly obvious when it comes to Command ships here chaps.

Field Command Ships to be specific.

Yes, the Nighthawk can field some DPS and a nice active tank but with all the neut nano canes that are likely to be about as well as every man and his dog fitting a heavy neut to a BS then the NH becomes a glorified Drake IMHO.

The Absolution is a pretty meh ship in the first place. I can get more speed and DPS out of a Cane and an Abso only has about 3k more ehp. I can field a HAM drake that has 25k ehp more, 80 dps less, is faster and can use a mid slot for TP or TD. Abso has three mids !!!

Sleipnir is a nice ship and if you like flying active Cyclones you are going to enjoy the extra cap, rep and dps that a Sleipnir offers. But it still has some glaring weaknesses and could be kited by a Nano Harby of all things.

Astarte is another ship that has some nice stats (I do admit to having never flown or fought one though) and working from tried and tested Brutix fits it seems to be fairly powerful in the right situation.

After several minutes of staring and re-reading of this post as well as some EFT fiddling (Shocking I know) and thinking about fights I have been involved in where CS have been present I am still at a loss as to exactly what the advantages of having one in my gang would be.

Every Tech II ship I have come across have been real force multipliers with the ablility to swing the fight in your favour. Recons, Logi, HICS, Black Ops to name a few.

Why is it that EAF and CS seem so horribly botched ?

Is this something that has happened in the years since their design or are they inherently pants and just not that well used ?

I am chatting s**t and they are actually epic (fingers crossed)

Darik 07

I really like Command Ships. They tank like a boss and put out pretty wild DPS. I think that a lot of the advantages a field command brings to the table aren't noticeable as your gang size scales up into blob territory. Also, being hit by an Astarte is something that must be experienced to be believed.

So much DPS.

-Liang

So basically you are saying that there are beneficial in small gang engagements, where they are able to apply a wedge of dps quickly, due to their higher base speed than compared to say a BS.

Totally ignoring strats and Tier 3 BC as they are a totally different kettle of fish IMHO,


I still have my reservations about them though and have yet to hear a convincing argument for their relatively high preqs and cost.

This.
Astarte is a **** machine on steroids.

I am actually looking at getting an Astarte, the DPS on paper (EFT) is by no means low but what makes it so good? I mean I know many (battle)ships that put out more DPS. Is it the application of the DPS because they are only med blasters that makes it so good?

Please let me know...

I think that having the fleet commands switch their boost amount with t3s (3% to 5%) would go a long way to making them used. the field commands... I'm not sure that there is really a problem with them. the NH has a ton of tank and damage projection, the Abso is a pocket BS with a huge set of RR loving resists, the Sleipnir is a small gang monster, and the Astarte is what all blaster ships not named Vindicator want to be when they grow up.

All of the Field Commands other than maybe the Sleipnir need another "Tanking" slot. +1 low for Abso, +1 low for Astarte, and +1 mid for nighthawk.

There is no reason tier 2 bcs should have more total slots than the only t2 Combat Oriented Bcs....

a fleet with 4-6 CS fit for killing. I would bring a BS gang out with logistics to take that on. that's some wild dps that's about to rain down.

CS's are nice in the right fleets. I love the abso, so much tank with very solid dps. Now when I say tank, I don't mean pure buffer, it only has about 200k EHP with a slave set and legion boosts. That's not very impressive when talking about BS's which is where its price tag is. What it does have is crazy high resists so with guardians/carriers on the field, it's virtually indestructible unless you can alpha it. And it does far more dps than an armor cane at greater range. The only ship you can really compare it to fairly is the legion and in that case, the abso does more dps while the legion has more range. Tank wise they are more or less even in both buffer and resistances. Similar comparisons can be made with the other CS's. They aren't the jack of all trades ships the tech 1 BC's are.

CS are too expensive. Cut their material requirements or increase their insurance.