EVE General Discussion

Some interesting replies.

Seriously though it's just a joke

'If you don't laugh you'll cry' as they say

I'm guessing it's not ...... seemingly unstable woman who like to rant in your face

If you want to have fun as noob, pvp, pve go everywhere you're pleased just train Stealth Bombers.

With some experience and some luck you can step n any size fleet toes and change a lot of things with simple bombs. Maybe because your bomb killed the bombers fleet bombs, maybe because your bomb just killed all the bombers decloaking or just because your bomb is what was missing to finish the job on that fleet.

It's an extraordinary tool to kill faction BS in anomalies, kill pods and small ships in null sec, disrupt bot activities, kill mining ops or just kill intys.

You don't need that much training for it and for sure you can get tons of fun with but you'll never pass a well settled camp no matter what you do, if they put the effort for it you just don't but those are rare.

It's another one of these threads and I am here only because my homemade beer knocked my girlfriend out.

What was this about?

Yeah but we're looking at the promo video in and of itself, not the totality of marketing, including viral/fans. The promo video looks cool, and might indeed entice someone who fancies a game of internet spaceships. But if someone were enticed by that, they'd soon either learn through research or experience that the game isn't like that - well, not until you've invested a fair amount of time.

You might say, well other games require a degree of levelling before you can do the "good stuff". True, but the video presents a guy in a beginner's ship, a Rifter, just starting his adventures in New Eden.



Well, in lore, true, and if you read the lore you might get that. But in effect, in practice, and in psychological reality, you are a skill-less schlub for several months.



I think the Awakening video is a tad more realistic. The Butterfly Effect one is realistic - for a player who's been in the game for a few months. Yes, you can make a difference then. But the whole idea of going out and romantically helping some people is false advertising really, it would never happen to a new player in a Rifter.

The long and the short of it is that like all PvP sandboxes, EVE is a griefer's paradise oriented around PvP. The butterfly Effect video shows it as some jolly co-operative Space Opera where you win friends and influence people and have noble, lore-appropriate PvP. That's not ever going to happen with internet anonymity. EVE is a paranoid hellhole, and that's the way most players like it.

I don't know which version of EVE you are playing but I don't think it's the same one as me.

Yeah sure if you're playing EVE during peak times and going through Rancer, Amamake, Tama, etc, to get to the outer regions then yeah, there are gate camps on the way to null from Empire. However I regularly make runs from high sec to the drone regions or Thukker 0.0 space and guess what - not a gate-camp in sight.

I suggest OP use the map tools that come with the game, look at the "pilots currently in space" statistic, as well as the pod kills in the last hour/pod kills in the past 24 hours to determine which is the best way into null. It is entirely possible to get into null without being killed - although you will be hunted down once the local alliance realizes you are there. I suggest you fit a cloak and learn how to make safe spots until you know what you are doing.

Edit: Now as far as PvP is concerned you do not have to go all the way to null to find PvP. In fact it's possibly the worst place for new players for PvP because null is more oriented towards fleet/small gang PvP. Rarely will you find single players for targets in null and when you do, they are usually bait.