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Firewall revival
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Golnash
Concordia Domi Foris Pax
#1 - 2012-02-17 13:21:05 UTC
Anybody think we will see any "firewall" like fleet to counter bombs?
Havent done the math to see if smartbombs can effectly kill bombs? Liked the original firewall concept worked out by the Initiative, to counter drake blobs and their missiles, maby it can be reworked to also counter bombs? I know the firewall fleets werent used that much. And what about defender missiles? - can they counter bombs?
Balkor Wolf
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-02-17 13:26:26 UTC
Golnash wrote:
Anybody think we will see any "firewall" like fleet to counter bombs?
Havent done the math to see if smartbombs can effectly kill bombs? Liked the original firewall concept worked out by the Initiative, to counter drake blobs and their missiles, maby it can be reworked to also counter bombs? I know the firewall fleets werent used that much. And what about defender missiles? - can they counter bombs?


I quite enjoyed the Firewall video when it was first released, quite a good idea but are the Drake fleets used as much as they were back then? Also I dont think defender missiles are able to counter bombs due to them not being a type of missile.. I could be wrong though.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#3 - 2012-02-17 14:41:45 UTC
Golnash wrote:
Anybody think we will see any "firewall" like fleet to counter bombs?
Havent done the math to see if smartbombs can effectly kill bombs? Liked the original firewall concept worked out by the Initiative, to counter drake blobs and their missiles, maby it can be reworked to also counter bombs? I know the firewall fleets werent used that much. And what about defender missiles? - can they counter bombs?


i was in fleets last year where ECM scorps were told to fit at least 1 large smartbomb to destroy bombs. Never had a need for it however.

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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#4 - 2012-02-17 17:47:26 UTC
Bombs have a 20km explosion radius if I remember correctly, how do you expect Smart bombs with 5-6km damage radius to do anything against bombs?
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-02-17 18:30:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Mfume Apocal
Mutnin wrote:
Bombs have a 20km explosion radius if I remember correctly, how do you expect Smart bombs with 5-6km damage radius to do anything against bombs?


If your fleet is spread around so the aimpoint has to be inside your firewall instead of outside, it can catch bombs. The problem is that smartbombs take a utility high and are fitting-intensive for their size. Which means there are a limited number of setups where they "work" without sacrifices in other areas. Also there is the issue of effectively positioning said ships. If you "give away the game" by having people warp ahead, warping to a gate or stn at 0, etc. bombs can be in air while you are landing and hit before you'd dropped out of warp (no troll), well before they've had time to even activate the smartbombs, let alone position themselves around the fleet.

Realistically, having a courage bubble is a better defense for your fleet than a firewall.