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ok sounds like a decent plan...

the trick is the tutorials are different from when i did them so i cant comment on them any more and of course the people that have done them, and didnt like it arnt here any more.

maybe allow some of us older toons to redo the tutorials. that way we can give feedback

My name is Kane Hart in RL and well in game haha. I found EVE Online to be one the most amazing games online. It brings so many amazing memories back from other MMORPG's that were so unique but unfortunately never survived. Things like Neocron and Endless Ages and well Anarchy Online did make it but at a really low population when global impacts were not so global.

I think one the main reasons I quit in the past was a lack of money and being young. Yes we were all young once and this is nothing you can do for eve as its not made for simple hormonal minds or maybe just not mine at the time.

I do have some memories of good times being able to go and farm none stop in high sector space without any risk. This was great because I enjoyed playing as a n00bie int most mmorpg's. I rather not raid I rather farm and I don't mind doing it slowly. Unfortunately one the things I found was the recent suicide gankings are actually tearing the enjoyment out of the game for a couple my friends who recently came back and one of them being fresh and new to the game.

I will say though coming back my self I did all the tutorials again and did the tutorial agents all 5 of them and I really enjoyed them and had a blast with it. Actually lost my ship from not reading the instructions and so did my friend who is new to eve and it sure helps you get your act together and a lot faster that's for sure.

I think overall the new player experience is becoming a bit better and getting better for sure overtime. I do think high sector security is getting worse and tbh players are just one step away from having trillions of isk and just deciding that why make money when you can just gank people 24/7 in safe sectors and causing an all out war and pushing new players and high sector players right out of the game.


This last one I'm sure a few people going to slap me around for and maybe threaten to stab me <3. I love the skill system it's unique but I hate it also. I have more time in my life and coming back with only a hand full of SP since 2003-2004 days and etc is already making me check out the market of character sales. But the thing is they would not be mine and I don't want them period I want my own character to be skilled up. I don't want to pay to skill and this will and may cause my overall destruction in quitting again.

If I had one crazy wish in EVE it would be to some how add a new feature into the game to gain EXP actively but not in a way it can be botted nor in a way that only the best players can get it and screw the rest. But also not to high... Something maybe mix in with Agent missions and etc. We have players with 100-150 million SP and hell I will never get there and tbh this is what pushes me away from eve a bit is because all other MMORPG's allow some kind of grinding to level and this whole passive leveling just makes me scream and cry that I can't do anything but wait and wait and wait.


I will admit I did heavy research in eve emulators back in the day and the good news is they will never exists since its just so complex they just will always fail. But the reason I searched was because I did not want to increase the training time I wanted to modify and add some possible way to gain SP by actively doing something in eve.

I really should CCP invest time not considering this but just seeing if players outside EVE would enjoy more of an active leveling system. We don't want free SP to 2mil or 10mil or anything crazy we just want to be able to feel like were doing something for our leveling gains a bit more.


Sorry if I went on and on none stop I love eve a lot and I have recently come back but the SP thing has always been the hardest thing for me.

I hope pouring out my hear helped in a way.

Thanks,
Kane Hart

Explain the differences between some of the timers and how they work.

GCC as opposed to aggression timers, concord, gate guns etc..

I'd suggest in all probability the largest section of new players would be lost by them wondering into low-sec space "for a bit of fun" lasting around 30 seconds to a minute and them losing everything it took the past X days/weeks to accumulate.

Recently I was camping EC- gate with CFC and we must've popped at least 3-4 noob ships (not necessarily noobships, but noob ships) which contained all the newb skillbooks that they had still not injected and for some reason had in their ships.... very badly fitted ships :\

Obviously just handing them the books isn't really helping. Perhaps if it is a new player quest system then just inject the skills.

We even put one guy on watchlist for the rest of last week and were going to send him money, but... he hasn't been back :\

Why not dumb down the game? Ex... if you lock overload or dont even have the skill. Dont bother showing the button... Hell why even have the dumbest tiniest button there at all infact?

A lot of players come from non-english speaking backgrounds.

And while they may be able to get by in the game with less than optimal english knowledge once they know how the game functions, explaining the game to them in terms they best understand (ie, in their own language) could significantly decrease the barrier to entry.

Game localization has helped for German and Russian players. If nothing else, the tutorial should be localized for the other significant languages whose speakers are not known for an easy mastery of the english language.

When I first started back in 2007 the tutorial was utter rubbish. It was pretty much just the one mission where you kill some rats, mine some ore then go to a station. And I felt back then that the ISK you start with was too little. Although I think new players these days are much better off, getting a couple of frigs and a hauler if you do all of the career tutorials, I still think its something that should be looked into, at the very least to be able to say, yes its fine. I also think that the career tutorials shouldn't be optional, they should be part of learning the game, or at least some of them should be, the advanced combat one is a must, while the exploration one isn't as important. Additionally, better guidance for finding a player corp would help, perhaps re-purpose the recruitment channel in-game for helping new players find a corp, or create a new channel for this purpose, and have strict rules on what is and isn't allowed, IE no scamming. It could perhaps be policed by players who volunteer their time to moderate it, with oversight by devs/gms.

Good changes

Bad changes.

How will the play out.

New players will get to understand the game better (and as such, let 'dumber' people in)

But they're still going to be daunted by how far they have to go.

And yet, that will fascinate some.

How will this impact the game?

Only time will tell.

There needs to be an MOTD in each of the starting corporations, which states popular questions as Rookie Help tends to be flooded with questions of the same nature. For example, where to find the tutorial agents (for that corporation), possibly the location of the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc. You can also post a link to the New Player Q & A forum which, in my opinion will help guide their way through the game.

Another helpful thing for new players would be to forewarn them on Can Baiters and Griefers and tell them to submit a petition if they are griefed in a newbie system (this can be placed in the MOTD), this may sound over the top, however there are sad individuals who think that destroying a new players experience is ~elitepvp~, although it is against the EULA.

CCP should get some of the people who wrote guides for TEST and Goons for their newbros (♥ newbros), they are very well written and are, in my opinion more helpful (even if they are walls of texts) compared to the CCP guides (no offence) which tend to be helpful, but only dip their toes in the water. As TEST and Goons rely solely on their new membership that they are detailed on basic things such as training and ship fittings.

If you have no free character slots, you can always sign up for a trial and run through the tutorial :)



I did ask you to pour your hearts out...



... and guts :)



By dumb down I meant more things like 'No PvP in Empire' or 'Compressing all Engineering skills to single megaskill of engineering'. Polishing and removing useless extra steps is something a lot of teams are looking at.