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5bn Loan, 1 month term.

Author
Serene Python
#1 - 2012-02-16 18:43:30 UTC
Why: Thread serves as public record of me requesting 5bn funds from previous investors and getting responses from two of them. Loan has already been filled, unless one of the two below went missing.
Who: Santa Claus
What: Station Trading
When: Now
Where: Jita & Amarr

Investors
Liberty Eternal - 2B
Oerlikon Llama - 3B

Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-02-17 05:10:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Liberty Eternal
Welcome back Serene and best of luck with your new offering. As noted above, this bond has already been discussed and arranged in-game, I'll send the 2 bil over within the next 24 hours or so as I'm heavily invested at the mo.

Edit: Isk sent - 2 bil for 1 month at 10% interest. Have fun Serene
Oerlikon Llama
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-02-17 07:02:13 UTC
Isk sent.
Serene Python
#4 - 2012-02-17 07:51:27 UTC
Liberty Eternal wrote:
Welcome back Serene and best of luck with your new offering. As noted above, this bond has already been discussed and arranged in-game, I'll send the 2 bil over within the next 24 hours or so as I'm heavily invested at the mo.

Edit: Isk sent - 2 bil for 1 month at 10% interest. Have fun Serene


Oerlikon Llama wrote:
Isk sent.


Confirming isk received.
Serene Python
#5 - 2012-02-23 06:00:17 UTC
First Weeks Earnings

Reflection

With a few updates through out the day I'm making a comfortable amount of profit, aside from the day where I had 7m loss. This was because I didn't check the price of an order and accidently bought it at twice it's normal price. I now take an extra second per order just to double check so I don't do this again.

Some profit isn't shown since I'm also doing some sales through contracts, I'd estimate maybe 1-2 million profit extra per day so not too much to warrant me getting an exact number.
Serene Python
#6 - 2012-03-01 02:01:04 UTC
Second Weeks Earnings

Reflection

Just finished switching all my orders over to corporation side so I can just use the same wallet(no clue why I wasn't doing this before). So that may be the loss of 18m today cause I just cancelled all my sell orders. Investors interest has already been set aside into a wallet division and my profit spent on losing at poker.

Lack of profit has been me just being rather absent from my desktop as well as letting orders fill over time so I could replace them corporate side. I still got a handful of orders I need to re-place(probably tomorrow before I go get covered in a thick white fluid). Since this week has been rather slow, here's some stats after relisting a bunch of things.

Total ISK In
Amarr Sell Orders: 1,606,030,668.46
Jita Sell Orders: 2,078,749,603.69
Escrow: 1,090,433,589.46
Liquid ISK*: 405,566,205.85

*this amount does not include last weeks or this weeks profits.
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire
#7 - 2012-03-01 04:27:14 UTC
How many guys does it take to cover you?
Serene Python
#8 - 2012-03-01 05:01:13 UTC
Tom Hagen wrote:
How many guys does it take to cover you?

About 3-4 if I'm feeling energetic. I'd post the results of my last visit but an elderly woman is handling the clothing I wore that day :(
Serene Python
#9 - 2012-03-09 20:40:50 UTC
Third Weeks Earnings

Reflection
Just a nice AFK week. 500m interest is still snug in a corp wallet division collecting space dust.

Total Isk In...
Amarr Sell Orders: 847,038,718.05
Jita Sell Orders: 525,351,427.41
Escrow: 1,344,462,724.58
Liquid ISK*: 520,964,374.59

*this amount does not include profits or interest payment.
Serene Python
#10 - 2012-03-17 07:27:26 UTC
http://i43.tinypic.com/33or15i.png
(another quality example of issues that shouldn't happen, I cannot create a named link above)

Update
I had contacted investors on March 9th, 2012 regarding extending the loan an additional month. They had both agreed to extend their investments another month. Interest payments have been sent out as of posting this.

I neglected to pay Interest out on time yesterday, so I have given an extra 1% for this payment period. I do apologize about not sending that payment out on time

Reflection
It's been a rather busy week for me IRL so I've had very little time for EVE, a couple days were dedicated to a civilization V match me and my roommate had...

A nice handful of buy orders did fill and I've got some items being moved around right now that I seen is decent for a trade route.

If I got time Saturday(today) I may work on a little script that will read the eve-mentat database for market orders and show me what's good for trade routes that I already trade. So this could improve my profits a fair bit possibly, since I got a little bit of isk sitting idly in the corp wallet that doesn't really see much change.

Total Isk In...
Amarr Sell Orders: 1,579,170,520.3
Jita Sell Orders: 1,386,488,000.3
Escrow: 1,078,392,545.6
Liquid ISK*: 523,216,530.3

*this amount does not include profits or interest payment


End Of The Month Stats

Total Isk...
Jita
Buy Orders - 14,607,065,50
----Average - 521,680,911
Sell Orders - 13,170,721,18
----Average - 487,804,48
Profit - 705,263,87
----Average - 26,120,884
Most Profitable Item - Hardwiring - Zainou 'Deadeye' ZMM10 Proft: 72,733,70

Amarr
Buy Orders - 7,380,259,55
----Average - 263,580,69
Sell Orders - 6,410,984,85
----Average - 246,576,34
Profit - 656,581,12
----Average - 25,253,12
Second Most Profitable Item - Caldari Navy Hookbill Profit: 81,176,300

Combined
Buy Orders - 21,987,325,063
----Average - 758,183,623
Sell Orders - 19,581,706,046
----Average - 699,346,644
Profit - 1,419,907,727
----Average - 50,710,990
Second Most Profitable Item - Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Profit:97,802,157

Phew that was a lot of typing. If I notice those profitable items markets crash I'll simply stop posting them in all future posts. For the ones that aren't the First Most profitable, it's not listed because that is making me enough profit I would rather not chance having that market tank. In both instances the difference was nearly twice what the second most was.

Overall Reflection
Was a good month, had plenty of real life discrepancies and still managed to get enough time in to make a nice little penny, my contract activities have slowed down. With me moving my orders over to corp side eve-mentat didn't like having me importing my player orders through file and would have issues, so at that point I investigated it's database files in hopes of figuring out how to fix it... Long story short, I just default import character orders through files now.
If anyone is interested in me sharing said script I make to possibly find trade routes using the eve-mentat database, give me a shout ASAP with what scripting language you would prefer otherwise it'll be made in probably PHP for my own personal use.

Now I'm going to go enjoy some middle of the night fast food that is probably spit in because I seldom tip!
Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-03-17 22:13:56 UTC
Confirming receipt of 220m interest payment - many thanks and congrats on your first month back of succesful trading.

Also confirming I'm happy to partake of the one-month bond rollathon. Now go and enjoy that Allah-Kebab Python!
Serene Python
#12 - 2012-03-22 19:03:00 UTC
Fifth Weeks Earnings - http://i43.tinypic.com/2ns0uw8.png

Reflection
Oddly enough after I posted my most profitable items, the most profitable item I didn't reveal tanked quite a bit(went from 78% profit to 24%) and for some reason eve-profit seen I lost isk(later it corrected itself as I sold more). I will only be posting most profitable at the end of a term.

Overall it's been a nice week. Updates may start happening on Wednesday just so I can put more effort into them instead of trying to rush them, today I just managed to wake up before 1500h for once.

Total ISK in...
Amarr Sell Orders: 716,195,038.03
Jita Sell Orders: 921,392,335.49
Escrow: 662,460,692.11
Liquid ISK*: 1,164,573,269.09

*this amount does not include profits or interest payment.

Serene Python
#13 - 2012-03-29 18:14:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Python
Sixth Weeks Earnings

Reflection
Haven't been using my windows partition that often since I have wanted to spend more time programming. With regards to some profits, the days I had (good) profit was when I imported some items for a trade route

When I get back from work tonight I'll be setting aside the profit/interest into their respective wallets and will update this post with the "Total ISK In..." portion since I'm not at home right now. I'll obviously be setting up new orders as well

Total ISK In...
Amarr Sell Orders: 850,986,790.
Jita Sell Orders: 564,235,235.
Escrow: 956,676,909.
Liquid ISK*: 1,575,342,140.

*this amount does not include profits or interest payment.
Serene Python
#14 - 2012-04-06 03:00:35 UTC
Seventh Weeks Earnings

Reflection
Been rather busy with programming interests of my own as well as for some reason having a social life. So my activity has been a lot lower than normal. Since I've been sleeping until just before I need to leave for work I don't have time to update order as I'm heading out of the door.

With this week I have placed all items in sell orders and cancelled buy orders to ensure that everything with this loans ends smoothly without me needing to dump into buy orders.

Total ISK In...
Amarr Sell Orders: 1,019,075,738.30
Jita Sell Orders: 1,391,995,140.65
Escrow: 0
Liquid ISK*: 2,825,242,111.53

*this amount does not include profits or interest payment
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-04-06 04:15:01 UTC
Don't feel bad, I get negative profit all the time, but that's only when I look at daily profit. I tend to run an aggressive re-investment.

Ignoring my hiatus, 4.5 months ago I was at 250m in my wallet. I kept re-investing. It took me 4 months to reach 1bil in my wallet, which didn't seem that great to me. I canceled all of my buy orders, put everything into sell orders(except ~ 1 weeks worth of PI/manufacturing materials) and took a break from Eve. Came back to 4.8bil in my wallet, another 500mil in manufacturing jobs that finished and my heavily inflated value minerals/etc which were about another 800mil.

Even right now I'm showing a 1.3bil "loss" from the last month and a 300mil loss from the past week. I have the math worked out so I can push in a buy or sell order and it will spit out the break even point for a given buy+sell broker fee and sales tax(so I can buy at Rens for 0.37% and sell in Jita for 0.85%+0.5%tax...etc..). I always make sure what I'm buying has a nice safety margin and I look at the volume/averages/trends.

Summary:
For the longest time, I didn't think I was actually turning a profit, but the math in my individual orders worked out to be constant profits, so I kept doing it even though the trading tools kept yelling at me for negative profits.

Lesson:
As long as I keep those in my sights, I just keep shoving money into orders.
Serene Python
#16 - 2012-04-06 06:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Python
Barakach wrote:
Don't feel bad, I get negative profit all the time, but that's only when I look at daily profit. I tend to run an aggressive re-investment.


I don't quite understand how you are concluding that I feel bad, would you mind explaining your reasoning behind this?

Update:
Actually read over your post... It seems you lack the same reading comprehension as myself. Right after I stated everything is in sell orders now, I say it's so this loan ends smoothly. With 10 days left in this term/bond I plan on wrapping it up early just to get everything sorted out. I also have a lot less orders to babbysit so I can 0.01 during my lunches.
Serene Python
#17 - 2012-04-12 17:09:20 UTC
Eighth Weeks Earnings
Reflection
Not much to reflect upon. I'm wrapping up the bond so I'm just selling what items I have.

Currently not at home so I cannot get ISK that's in my wallet or orders(eve-profit doesn't show corp orders).

With the recent news of eve profit closing down I will be waiting to see what course the owner takes before I start any future bonds. Unless the new owner is already a trusted party, I will not be using eve-profit if it goes down the route of just switching owners. If this is the case I will probably just make a clone of it for my own personal use
Serene Python
#18 - 2012-04-16 23:11:01 UTC
Interests have been fully paid and principal has been returned.

I will make the lengthy post with pretty numbers and such through out the week.
Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-04-16 23:33:19 UTC
Confirming receipt of 2bil principal and 200 mil interest. Congrats on another succesful bond run SP, looking forward to the next one.
Oerlikon Llama
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-04-20 00:05:07 UTC
Sorry for my absence. Confirming receipt of principal and interest. Thanks for bond and I hope to be a part of the next one.
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