EVE General Discussion

This, pretty much.

Why do people assume everyone uses KBs?

I want a T3 frigate so I can have the speed and tackle range of an inty, launch bombs, warp cloaked and have the tank of a cruiser.

It should also be immune to bubbles, and what the heck, let it probe down other cloaked ships.

As a tradeoff, it could lose one of those abilities and have the DPS of a dramiel or drone bay of an ishkur.

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T3 cruisers pretty much obsolete all other cruisers, aside from the cost factor, and I really dislike the idea that cost becomes a major factor in balance. I'd much rather see all T3s go away and CCP fix existing T1 and T2 ships than add T3 frigs.

Two words: Interdiction Nullifier.

I would imagine that a highly agile frigate that can warp while cloaked and can't be stopped by bubbles would be the biggest reason a lot of people would want them.

Would much rather have T3 Battleships, but im all for any type of new ship really.

Tech 3 Frigates should be a cheap way to get the t3 experience, and a way for hardcore frigate pilots to use their speedy boats in PVE. Cause that's where the current lineup suffers. Kinda like marauders are for L4, gear them towards chaining l3 missions really amazingly fast. Lowsec exploration and ratting would be a shoe in as well. Let's say 50m for the hull, 3 subsystems (no need for 5 on a frig), and some kind of hideous weakness to pvp. We really don't need uber frigates breaking the pvp balance atm, which is delicate enough as it is.

Cov ops Cloak + Bubble immune cruisers are annoying enough and very hard to catch. Now you want to make a frig that does that?

WTB bubbles that actually stop ships from warping.

Also, T3 frigates are a horrible idea just like EAF ships were a horrible idea. But everyone wanted them and quickly found out how horrible they are and now they are non-existent.

We have plenty of frigates to cover every role. We need T2 versions of all of the BS and BC ships, maybe a T2 Maelstrom that can use 8x XL guns and wreck capitals. Something new with a different role that you have to actually risk on the battlefield.

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oh and someone said:

Interdiction nullifier

Saying there are already 60 frigs in game and 2/3's are useless, is saying there are only 20 frigs in game and only a few are worth wild, so basicly we need more.

Why not introduce a T4 ship instead?
Same as flexibility as T3 but also possibility to be frigate, cruiser or battleship size.

As someone who flies and loses frigates almost exclusively (yes really, go check my killboard) , I would like to have T3 frigs in eve.

I imagine them being just like T3 cruisers, just frig sized. Customizable, unpredictable, able to travel deep into nullsec relatively safely.
Do I want to see a new dramiel, something so overpowered it's the only thing anyone's ever going to use? No, I do not. Losing a dramiel was simple because it was only a T1 frigate. With T3 frigates I assume there would be SP loss involved with the destruction of the ship. It's also quite safe to assume that T3 frigs would be expensive which should limit their use in pvp especially.
I live in a fairly busy part of lowsec and I must say that the only T3 cruisers I see are probing alts and mission runners. There aren't many of them around actually doing pvp so I think the same would go for T3 frigs as well.

The most important thing to remember is that they're just frigs after all. frigs cant withstand medium or heavy neuts (except maybe the cruor) and they cant survive great alpha or gate guns. Frigs are thin, have horrible cap and they die. Same would go for the T3 frigs.

So... Some nullsec peeps will get annoyed when they cant catch everything with a bubble? Even more reason to get some T3 frigs.

Personally even if the T3 frigs cannot fit interdiction nullifiers I would want one because of the customizability and flexibility. Right now the only question when fighting a frigate is whether they're short range or long range which you can usually see just by looking at their guns. Because frigs have very limited amounts of slots available they must be fit in a specific way. ofc there's usually a choice between kity and brawly fits but most of the time you dont get to choose if it's shield or armor fit, for example. You dont get to choose the ewar either because there's no room for it.
I'm hoping T3 frigs could change this and give more frigs the advantage of unpredictability.

Having said all that, I do hope that if CCP actually does T3 frigs they do it carefully. The risk of having one must be great enough considering the reward so every belt and planet in eve doesnt become dominated by overpowered frigates.

But that's just me.

TL;DR
T3 frigs are still only frigs and done right their only "downside" is that they would annoy people who are too lazy to catch stuff with an actual point. For frig pilots they would be very exciting.