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secrret nurf to people with more then 1 monitor

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Jita Alt666
#41 - 2012-02-17 00:01:54 UTC
Paragon renegade: stop the multiboxing and you will see the eve playerbase collapse.
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Stealth Alliance
#42 - 2012-02-17 00:08:35 UTC
I found this out the hard way, closest ship - malediction 100km+ on overview...So why is there a tiny red spec orbiting my ship at 500?

Damn nature, you scary!

Mammoth Akachi
What Could Go Right
#43 - 2012-02-17 00:14:32 UTC
a person using 2 accounts (Multi boxing) VS 2 single accounts is going to be at a disadvantage so this is not cheating or paying to win.
it takes longer to do stuff.
You miss stuff on the other screen.
Orcirk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-02-17 00:17:41 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
I personally love the fact CCP allows people to us multiple accounts, so we can invstigate multiple aspects of the game.


Though there is some logic in the arguement if a solo player Wardecs a 10 account multi boxer, we know who is going to win.

But that said if a solo player wardecs a 10 player corp, we also know who's going to win.

Does it follow then that you believe those 10 players are collectively 'paying to win'?

I personally have never 10 boxed before, though this character is one of the 6 I use for grinding incursions. Rest assured, if I got wardecced by a 1 man corp, it would not go well for him Big smile

The irony here is that I know, from experience, that if I take one of my toons, and wardec a 10 man corp, I'll stomp the floor with them more often than not (and I tend to prefer larger targets anyway, 10 people rarely tend to have many active members, alliances with 150+ are more fun)

With all that said:

I actually DO think eve would be a much better game without alts. Capitals/supercaps would be more corp-oriented assets spies wouldn't be so absurdly easy to make/plant etc. It will NEVER happen, since eve's playerbase would shrink to about half its current size overnight, assuming people didn't just work their way around whatever blocks get put up, but it's a nice thought at least.
Arsedestroyer
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-02-17 00:18:37 UTC
You can't play eve outside highsec or a blob in anything non-cloaky or bigger than a frig.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-02-17 00:19:34 UTC
Paragon Renegade wrote:
Multiboxing is ******** and should be against the rules


Your posting is ******** and should be against the rules.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#47 - 2012-02-17 00:28:58 UTC
CCP Veritas wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
So this freezing overview not only freezes when the mouse is over it, but when the mouse is over on another monitor!

This is fixed internally. Hopefully we can get a round of fixes out quickly.


Ok Veritas, be honest: how late did you work to make this happen so fast? :)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

CCP Veritas
C C P
C C P Alliance
#48 - 2012-02-17 00:56:21 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
CCP Veritas wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
So this freezing overview not only freezes when the mouse is over it, but when the mouse is over on another monitor!

This is fixed internally. Hopefully we can get a round of fixes out quickly.


Ok Veritas, be honest: how late did you work to make this happen so fast? :)

-Liang

Today was a long day.

CCP Veritas - Technical Director - EVE Online

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#49 - 2012-02-17 00:58:41 UTC
CCP Veritas wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
CCP Veritas wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
So this freezing overview not only freezes when the mouse is over it, but when the mouse is over on another monitor!

This is fixed internally. Hopefully we can get a round of fixes out quickly.


Ok Veritas, be honest: how late did you work to make this happen so fast? :)

-Liang

Today was a long day.


Yeah, I bet. Well we appreciate your hard work. Now I'm looking forward to that deployment tomorrow! <3 <3

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-02-17 01:27:39 UTC
ccp veritas best veritas
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
New Eden Corporation 98713347
Brotherhood of Spacers
#51 - 2012-02-17 03:05:07 UTC
Gil, That sounds WRONG. Very, Very Wrong P
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#52 - 2012-02-17 03:05:38 UTC
Overview still has trouble with the scroll bar though - sometimes you are no longer able to click on stuff in the list unless you click on the scroll bar again. If there is no scroll bar make the box smaller so a scroll bar appears, click on it, then resize the box back and you can select stuff. Funny how you can make changes to a section of code while leaving the basic bugs unchanged.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#53 - 2012-02-17 03:36:40 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
CCP Veritas wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
CCP Veritas wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
So this freezing overview not only freezes when the mouse is over it, but when the mouse is over on another monitor!

This is fixed internally. Hopefully we can get a round of fixes out quickly.


Ok Veritas, be honest: how late did you work to make this happen so fast? :)

-Liang

Today was a long day.


Yeah, I bet. Well we appreciate your hard work. Now I'm looking forward to that deployment tomorrow! <3 <3

-Liang

Thanx Veritas. Mucho gracias. Now go get drunk.

Knew I woudlnt be the only one that this would affect.Big smile



As for lil miss against multiboxing....ha!! Go away troll back under your bridge!! Try MINING without a hauler, back BEFORE the advent of barges. Try finding a FRIEND whos willing to sit there and haul for you cuz you cant multibox it. Someone always willing to be at your beck and call, especially if a can flipper shows up and you NEED that hauler ASAP!! Cuz I know youll get LOTS of those friends and not have to pay to keep them around.Roll And that was HOW many years ago already?


Mmmhmmm.RollRoll

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Ohanka
#54 - 2012-02-17 03:38:43 UTC
Don't play with more than one monitor. You don't need more than one

now go away.

North Korea is Best Korea

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#55 - 2012-02-17 04:15:24 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Overview still has trouble with the scroll bar though - sometimes you are no longer able to click on stuff in the list unless you click on the scroll bar again. If there is no scroll bar make the box smaller so a scroll bar appears, click on it, then resize the box back and you can select stuff. Funny how you can make changes to a section of code while leaving the basic bugs unchanged.


Uh, that's probably not in the same section of code. Also, its highly unlikely that every bug that's ever been reported about "the overview" was delivered to him to sift through when he was given the task to update the refresh rate. Roll

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Katja Norolyev
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-02-17 04:20:24 UTC
Orcirk wrote:
I actually DO think eve would be a much better game without alts. Capitals/supercaps would be more corp-oriented assets spies wouldn't be so absurdly easy to make/plant etc. It will NEVER happen, since eve's playerbase would shrink to about half its current size overnight, assuming people didn't just work their way around whatever blocks get put up, but it's a nice thought at least.


Well said.


Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:

Try MINING without a hauler, back BEFORE the advent of barges. Try finding a FRIEND whos willing to sit there and haul for you cuz you cant multibox it. Someone always willing to be at your beck and call, especially if a can flipper shows up and you NEED that hauler ASAP!! Cuz I know youll get LOTS of those friends and not have to pay to keep them around. And that was HOW many years ago already?


Mmmhmmm.


Now that we've heard from the "I like my EVE on easy mode!" crowd, try imagining the depth and immersion of a game where one of the plausible professions is being a freelance hauler in a busy mining system because all those miners can't just cheese cargo robots. You could even go crooked and occasionally drum up business by paying a can flipper to harass the system occasionally.

Imagine a game where you ACTUALLY can't trust anyone else because there are no two characters whos motivations come from the same source. There'd always be that twinge of doubt when you jumped to a cyno, or your scout told you the gate was clear, etc.

Imagine a game where a well-oiled mining op or something comperable was a real accomplishment, instead of just a poor fallback if you can't 10-box.

For anyone that actually appreciates the fact that the harsh environs of EVE lend legitimacy to the completion of even simple tasks, removing multiboxing would create a staggeringly more complex and immersive game. I bet guys like Eternus here like to join in with the "go back to WoW" when someone complains about training times or pirates, but turns around and spews this bunk when making the game more difficult is suggested.

It is sad that this would be nearly impossible to impliment. As it stands, I merely pretend alts are, in fact, programmable androids that very rich capsuleers can afford.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#57 - 2012-02-17 04:26:12 UTC
WTH is a “nurf”?

Also, what's so hard about mining without a hauler (or without alts for that matter)?
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#58 - 2012-02-17 04:38:26 UTC
Katja Norolyev wrote:
Orcirk wrote:
I actually DO think eve would be a much better game without alts. Capitals/supercaps would be more corp-oriented assets spies wouldn't be so absurdly easy to make/plant etc. It will NEVER happen, since eve's playerbase would shrink to about half its current size overnight, assuming people didn't just work their way around whatever blocks get put up, but it's a nice thought at least.


Well said.


Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:

Try MINING without a hauler, back BEFORE the advent of barges. Try finding a FRIEND whos willing to sit there and haul for you cuz you cant multibox it. Someone always willing to be at your beck and call, especially if a can flipper shows up and you NEED that hauler ASAP!! Cuz I know youll get LOTS of those friends and not have to pay to keep them around. And that was HOW many years ago already?


Mmmhmmm.


Now that we've heard from the "I like my EVE on easy mode!" crowd, try imagining the depth and immersion of a game where one of the plausible professions is being a freelance hauler in a busy mining system because all those miners can't just cheese cargo robots. You could even go crooked and occasionally drum up business by paying a can flipper to harass the system occasionally.

Imagine a game where you ACTUALLY can't trust anyone else because there are no two characters whos motivations come from the same source. There'd always be that twinge of doubt when you jumped to a cyno, or your scout told you the gate was clear, etc.

Imagine a game where a well-oiled mining op or something comperable was a real accomplishment, instead of just a poor fallback if you can't 10-box.

For anyone that actually appreciates the fact that the harsh environs of EVE lend legitimacy to the completion of even simple tasks, removing multiboxing would create a staggeringly more complex and immersive game. I bet guys like Eternus here like to join in with the "go back to WoW" when someone complains about training times or pirates, but turns around and spews this bunk when making the game more difficult is suggested.

It is sad that this would be nearly impossible to impliment. As it stands, I merely pretend alts are, in fact, programmable androids that very rich capsuleers can afford.

Yeah and pretend that Eve isnt based on larceny and piracy from the get go and handing over your precious cargo to some stranger for haulage will get it stolen faster than anything else ever will. Yeah imagine that...

Yeah imagine an Eve where you cant trust anyone.....wait thats already here....

Yeah imagine a game thats more like real life where you have to get a zillion people together to take ****... you can call it "Girlz Online In the Bathroom" too. Cuz you know its lots of fun sitting around and having to wait for 60 people to log in and form up for EVERYTHING you do. Its GREAT bliss wasting that precious hour of game time you might have waiting around for that special someone to get it right only to have them jump the gate ahead of time and ruin it all in 5 mins. Cuz you know its OH so much fun that way.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Cyzlaki
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-02-17 04:45:29 UTC
CCP Veritas wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
CCP Veritas wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
So this freezing overview not only freezes when the mouse is over it, but when the mouse is over on another monitor!

This is fixed internally. Hopefully we can get a round of fixes out quickly.


Ok Veritas, be honest: how late did you work to make this happen so fast? :)

-Liang

Today was a long day.

OK CAN WE HURRY THIS UP PLZ I DONT LIKE GETTING A WHOLE FLEET WARPED IN ON MY OTHER ACCOUNT WHILE OVERVIEW FROZEN DOESNT SHOW ANYTHING AND THEN POOF IM DED

ROLLOUT HOTFIX ASAP
Katja Norolyev
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-02-17 04:47:49 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Yeah and pretend that Eve isnt based on larceny and piracy from the get go and handing over your precious cargo to some stranger for haulage will get it stolen faster than anything else ever will. Yeah imagine that...

Yeah imagine an Eve where you cant trust anyone.....wait thats already here....

Yeah imagine a game thats more like real life where you have to get a zillion people together to take ****... you can call it "Girlz Online In the Bathroom" too. Cuz you know its lots of fun sitting around and having to wait for 60 people to log in and form up for EVERYTHING you do. Its GREAT bliss wasting that precious hour of game time you might have waiting around for that special someone to get it right only to have them jump the gate ahead of time and ruin it all in 5 mins. Cuz you know its OH so much fun that way.


TL;DR "I'm not very bright. Socializing is hard. Solo productivity is hard. I liek E-Z. Moar accnts, pl0x."