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EVE Online: Crucible 1.2 Feedback

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Aquila Draco
#41 - 2012-02-16 16:58:39 UTC
Thanks CCP!

And this new way of locking overview is fantastic! <3
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#42 - 2012-02-16 17:00:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
saltrock0000 wrote:
When using more than 1 monitor, the overview will freeze on the monitor without current mouse focus on it. This happens even when running in fixed window mode.

The freezing of overview on the monitor without focus is really bad for people duelboxing in pvp sorting by distance, and will cause deaths i fear


Yes, you can avoid it by making sure that when you move you mouse from the left screen to the right, that you do so without leaving the screen in the area of overview. My overview is 2/3 of hte height of my screen so i have to move my mouse to the top and go around the overview to the right hand screen in order to prevent locking hte left screens overview.

This is of course unacceptable in and of itself. The person who decided this was a good idea needs to be given the job of tea lady and let someone else have a go. Surely they can find some homeless person on the street who can do a better job???
Funkert
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#43 - 2012-02-16 17:00:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Funkert
saltrock0000 wrote:
When using more than 1 monitor, the overview will freeze on the monitor without current mouse focus on it. This happens even when running in fixed window mode.

The freezing of overview on the monitor without focus is really bad for people duelboxing in pvp sorting by distance, and will cause deaths i fear


edit: nvm guy above me already explained it
Dancul1001
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#44 - 2012-02-16 17:03:24 UTC
I can understand the new changes to "enhance" the game as ccp would put it. But the overview freezing when ever your mouse hovers over it is stupid IMO. I can understand if people like it but please at least give me an option to turn it off cause i think it is dumb as ****.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#45 - 2012-02-16 17:09:09 UTC
Why can't I still see the full station and stargate names/info without expanding my overview 2x the width I had it set before?

Why does holding the mouse over the overview on one client also freeze the overview on my other clients?

Why does CCP feel they need to "fix" things that work just fine that no one is complaining about?

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Morkus Rex
Purarg
#46 - 2012-02-16 17:09:44 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
I rea... h... t... n... trunca... overiv... colu...

Y... c... a... g... a... su... d...

F... Y...


This!

Nobody cares about what you care about!

Eyor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-02-16 17:09:52 UTC
inb4 CCP makes it so that you automatically "look at" anything your mouse hovers over on the GUI lol
Aquila Draco
#48 - 2012-02-16 17:12:58 UTC
Sorry but...
Why noone of ppl who complains after every patch dont come to SiSi and test anything there and give feedback before change goes live???

You ppl like when devs spend their time in vain on reading complains after change is live and then changing changes because few ppl dont like it?
Eyor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-02-16 17:15:59 UTC
Aquila Draco wrote:
Sorry but...
Why noone of ppl who complains after every patch dont come to SiSi and test anything there and give feedback before change goes live???

You ppl like when devs spend their time in vain on reading complains after change is live and then changing changes because few ppl dont like it?


Perhaps because EVE, unlike other MMO's, is a global game with 1 server and it never..............stops? So very few people would WANT to take time away from playing on the server that counts to playing on the server that doesn't count. Also, devs treat TQ like their own sisi now anyway to see how we react after something is launched. We are their primary source of feedback and bug-hunting.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#50 - 2012-02-16 17:16:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Aquila Draco wrote:
Sorry but...
Why noone of ppl who complains after every patch dont come to SiSi and test anything there and give feedback before change goes live???

You ppl like when devs spend their time in vain on reading complains after change is live and then changing changes because few ppl dont like it?



Thats going too far. We play the game, we didnt enrol as beta testers. Holding us, the people who play the game responsible for the lack of feedback or competence of people who go pew on sisi just because they either dont have the balls or the isk to do it on tq is cheeky as ****.

This isnt a testing issue. It shouldve been completely ******* obvious that this was a bad design decision from its inception.

Dont get me wrong, im sure it doesnt matter when you are doing your worlds collide, but in pvp its gonna be a real headache for a lot of people as they realise the new overview behaviour.
Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-02-16 17:18:52 UTC
Aquila Draco wrote:
Sorry but...
Why noone of ppl who complains after every patch dont come to SiSi and test anything there and give feedback before change goes live???

You ppl like when devs spend their time in vain on reading complains after change is live and then changing changes because few ppl dont like it?



I just don't have the time to keep updating a SiSi client then checking for new things and making sure they didn't screw anything up.

In between masturbating and playing on TQ, the rest of my time is spent sleeping.

If they wanted to pay me however. Gladly!
Funkert
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#52 - 2012-02-16 17:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Funkert
Aquila Draco wrote:
Sorry but...
Why noone of ppl who complains after every patch dont come to SiSi and test anything there and give feedback before change goes live???

You ppl like when devs spend their time in vain on reading complains after change is live and then changing changes because few ppl dont like it?

because i pay money for TQ.

edit: i'm all for occasionally testing stuff on sisi, but don't act like it's a responsibility we have. People do it either because they can spare the time, or because they want to get some kind of advantage out of it
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
#53 - 2012-02-16 17:44:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Johanne D'Arc
Yeah, no.

I don't see how it is my responsibility to keep 10-15gb of HDD space aside and keep abreast of test server updates to do, in my own spare time, for free, the work that someone at CCP ought to be doing.

I can only suggest they get some competent people on their QA, people that undock once in a while. Most of these issues should be blatant to anyone well within 5 minutes of logging into the client.
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-02-16 17:58:00 UTC
khm,khm

Overview changes broke someones botts?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#55 - 2012-02-16 18:00:54 UTC
Elanor Vega wrote:
khm,khm

Overview changes broke someones botts?



Check the combat records of the people who are complaining then check the non-existent combat records of those that arnt. Then check yourself.
Yogsoloth
The Shunned House
#56 - 2012-02-16 18:01:20 UTC
#15Posted: 2012.02.16 14:24 | Report

It's really bizzarre how CCP manages to F up nearly everything they mess with these days.

While the text appears smaller, it really doesn't allow you to resize your overview, or columns any smaller. Any change that you can make to that end is really insignificant at best.

Whats worse, is that the text appears smaller but is really just harder to read. In fact, if you'd like your text to look similiar to the way it looked previously you have make the text larger, columns wider, and overview size larger.

The net difference of this patch is really a larger overview than before, which I believe is the exact opposite effect they were looking for. gj CCP.
Defier Orilis
Defiance Eden Initiative
#57 - 2012-02-16 18:02:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Defier Orilis
Dang!!! The reviews are not that great for this patch.

I would suggest to hire Beta testers instead of using us as Beta Testers. I am not paying CCP to be a Beta Tester, they should pay me instead! Dang!!!
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-02-16 18:07:13 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Elanor Vega wrote:
khm,khm

Overview changes broke someones botts?



Check the combat records of the people who are complaining then check the non-existent combat records of those that arnt. Then check yourself.



I am not talking about mains of that ppl that complain.
I am talking about botting alts that finance that combat records of some ppl.

And for your information, EVE is not all about pew pew combat, there are other kinds of combat that don't give you killmails.
ViRUS Pottage
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-02-16 18:09:21 UTC
90% UI scale and small text on Overview looks terrible. Also when dual boxing one of your clients' overview will freeze up. Not sure on the circumstances but my alt is FAR behind.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#60 - 2012-02-16 18:11:16 UTC
Elanor Vega wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Elanor Vega wrote:
khm,khm

Overview changes broke someones botts?



Check the combat records of the people who are complaining then check the non-existent combat records of those that arnt. Then check yourself.



I am not talking about mains of that ppl that complain.
I am talking about botting alts that finance that combat records of some ppl.

And for your information, EVE is not all about pew pew combat, there are other kinds of combat that don't give you killmails.


What an interesting but also pointless post in a thread about feedback on overview changes. Regardless of how anyone finances their pvp, the changes to the overview **** with pvp.

The little i know about bots leads me to believe they can read an overview faster than i can even if it is in some ****** up order because of this patch.