Jita Park Speakers Corner

I have to admit there's a part of me that would love to see the world through your eyes just long enough to get an idea of what it's like for you.

• Abstain /suspend - actively declaring no confidence in the candidates or CSM and possibly having no CSM for a year.
• Removal - believing that the system is irredeemable and should be withdrawn entirely.

See, the problem might not be that people are too lazy to vote. They simply don't want any of those people involved in the decision process of their game.

We should have the option to say, "I do not support this system and or group," or, "These people do not represent me."

As a reply:
"For now, the votes are similar to these 'Like' buttons. People can only say that they agree, they have no voice to say that they disagree or do not like who is being put forward"



There are some fundamental problems with democracy.

Tribes or groups of people will vote for a particular person associated with them.

For example, in South Africa, the Zulus, which is the largest group always vote for the ANC party which comprises of people from their tribe. They will even vote in a new leader who has forcefully removed the previous leader before the end of his term and is up on corruption, arms dealing and indecent assault charges prior to the election.

Null sec voting blocks.

Your control as a voter is usually an illusion.

Even in the best of conditions, your choices narrow down to only a few candidates that are usually chosen for you. You do not get to elect the entire bureaucracy, who make the day to day decisions. You have no recourse if those people do not follow through with their promises and have only told you what you wanted to hear.
There is no "neither" option on the ballots.

CCP developers and the CSM system.

Money and propaganda machines.

There are people financially well off and connected enough to basically shout louder than anyone else. They have the resources to hire people to go about spreading their information and making a lot of flashy displays.

Alliances with the ISK cushion; that can dedicate people to forums and favour trading in game instead of being distracted with the struggle to be viable.

Charisma is not the same as aptitude.

Politicians are not required to undergo IQ or personality tests. They do not have to write particular exams or prove their competency. All they simply have to do is convince you to vote for them.

Alliance or corporation leader are not necessarily good CSM material.

Tangents

There seems to be a growing tendency to destroy high security and worm hole space. There seems to be large vocal groups who instead of working as people to improve their social groups or to get their area of space made better for them, seek only to sabotage the other options so that people are left with no other choice than to go out there and be slaughtered as victims.

I would like to see areas being improved for the people that are there and enjoy that play style instead of breaking things to force others there.

There are some individuals that you might think are okay or that you like but have a look at the groups that they lead. They wouldn't be leading them if they were not liked and are similar to those people.

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I agree with everything here... +10000

You should quit Eve and come back again when you are a bit more mature.

I suspect that is not possible for them due to some limitations:


You can make this go on forever but the basic point is that the way EVE is made fragments the majority and creates strong minority voting blocks. Thus even if the representation could be working as intended there would still be 20 -30 percent of the delegates representing 50 - 70 percent of the players.

you dont need isk to have your voice heard you colossal dumbass

this is not a real life election with real life money being spent on real life people buying real life advertisements







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for every doublepost i make mittens gives me a drake

Yes, I only mine Veldspar in high sec. That good pirate standing? I must have found a secret mining station of theirs and those worm hole kill mails are fake because I mine them to death and would never be in another ship.

However, this has nothing to do with me as a player. I am saying that the whole CSM is bad because it has players in it when it would be better run by GMs.

Why is there so many "Like" with no "Dislike" options across the web? Games where any idiot need only apply time, grind and then be "uber"?

People do not handle criticism or failure well any more. They do not want challenges as they live sheltered little lives. Companies see ways to inflate the feelings and egos of their target market then cash in on that.

Just read the articles with quotes from after the Jita protests, "we were going from strength to strength and could not handle this set back well." (paraphrased) They had become complacent and shrouded in their belief of succeeding. "Just wait until you see this WiS stuff, it will blow you socks off!" Was there thought to contingencies? An awareness of divided interests? What if they had released some long asked for FiS changes at the same time? Do you think that there would have been more mollified people?

Do you really see CSM with all its bias being good coverage for the game or do you think like me that it is another Incarna blind spot of CCP's?

The obvious way to abstain is to vote for a candidate that legally is denied a place on the ballot - there's a 7 year old girl standing, think of what a statement that would make.

What makes you think CCP cares about that information?

Think about it - it's extremely easy to participate in this whole system. Voting is beyond simple, you have 14 days to do it on any number of accounts you have that qualify. Running is almost as easy, as the only two barriers of entry are "are you 21?" and "can you legally travel to Iceland?".

A vote of "none of the above" is really saying "I'm too lazy to run, too lazy to solicit any of the 28 certified candidates from just about every corner of the galaxy, but certainly not too lazy to whine about it". How valuable is any of that to CCP at the end of the day?

Good for you. CCP clearly doesn't, hence the CSM existing. So we're right back to the "why do you think they care about your opinion?" point.