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Putting the D back into Democracy

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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#21 - 2012-02-15 15:21:06 UTC
Putting the D back in? Are you suggesting that right now we are ruled by Emos? Shocked

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Killer Gandry
Fenghuang Corporation
#22 - 2012-02-15 15:41:47 UTC
Excuse me if I sound very uninformed, but seeing english isn't my primary or even secondary language I think it's a justified question.

What does the D in Democracy stand for?

Or should I ask what does it stand for for you?

Tiger Would
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-02-15 16:31:59 UTC
Updated

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would

Tiger Would
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-02-15 16:35:13 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Excuse me if I sound very uninformed, but seeing english isn't my primary or even secondary language I think it's a justified question.

What does the D in Democracy stand for?

Or should I ask what does it stand for for you?



To some players, the current state of the CSM is an Emocracy, more run by emotions and personal gain, than actually function as an CSM and what it stands for.

So by saying, putting the D back into Democracy, i am saying, Lets get rid of the emocracy.

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would

Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-02-15 19:25:54 UTC
Tiger Would wrote:
Killer Gandry wrote:
Excuse me if I sound very uninformed, but seeing english isn't my primary or even secondary language I think it's a justified question.

What does the D in Democracy stand for?

Or should I ask what does it stand for for you?



To some players, the current state of the CSM is an Emocracy, more run by emotions and personal gain, than actually function as an CSM and what it stands for.

So by saying, putting the D back into Democracy, i am saying, Lets get rid of the emocracy.


Democracy affords such an opportunity, it's called the ballot box.

Interpretation of a candidates character does not infer a problem with the system.
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-02-15 23:02:54 UTC
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Democracy affords such an opportunity, it's called the ballot box.

Interpretation of a candidates character does not infer a problem with the system.


Thank you for posting Grumpy Owly, mean that.


You make a very valid statement. This ofcourse is true in any regard.
Hence i stated ...."Well, the processes in itself are not the problem as such"......
I had replaced "the system" with "the processes" in this regard.

But let us also recognize that, however close the CSM election process is resembling a real world election, there is a very different reason persisting through in regards to its function.

Let us not kid ourselves here, CCP could have chosen the route many game developing companies have, by just using a public forum and the company website to get interaction with the gaming community at hand.
CSM in that regard is merely dressing up the interaction but in essence has the exact same function, which is quite unlike a real world election. The interaction is sought to have the player base and the game developers on the same page, enhancing player satisfaction, enhancing revenues for the game developer and help game developers understand what “the market” is looking for while staying true to their concept.

In this regard, the CSM should contain people who have the abilities to help structure this interaction. By no means should these people be able to push their own agenda’s. And that is the change I am suggesting, taking out the personal agenda’s where they exist by redefining the flow of information going back and forth. “rolling the hole”, or to put it in other words, closing the gap between the player base and in this case CCP.

But let me make it clear from where I am standing now, I have high respect towards some of the CSM members who have done an excellent job and put in a lot of their time, and actually being “neutral”. I do hope they get re-elected, recognizing the good things they have done. The changes I suggest are just making sure ALL CSM members are neutral. A lot of people (majority) does not bother to vote and get involved because they feel some CSM members were not as neutral as they should be pushing mechanics that would change the game for the worse (less sandbox, more FPS). And let’s be honest here, it is not hard to see what they are talking about.

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would

Retar Aveymone
DJ's Retirement Fund
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2012-02-16 20:55:22 UTC
how do you respond to charges you are running on an alt so you can feed nda information to your alliance without the greater eve community being able to detect it
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-02-17 09:04:02 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
how do you respond to charges you are running on an alt so you can feed nda information to your alliance without the greater eve community being able to detect it



hahaha, that actually would be quite a frame. You should put less emphasis on the alt thing though, most people will realise it is a frame because of that since there is no difference between a alt and a second,third main or first main in regards to being able to "feed nda information to my alliance". Other than that, sure, many people will fall for that.

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would

Tiger Would
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-02-21 09:48:40 UTC
I have added the “Carrots on a stick” chapter.

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would

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