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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#101 - 2012-02-15 20:56:45 UTC
Jafit wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Jafit wrote:
It's interesting how Moon mining and PI are other forms of resource gathering in this game introduced since belt mining, and they're passive in nature rather than requiring players to sit in a ship and shoot at something. I like to think that this is because CCP realised how bad mining gameplay is, but that probably isn't the reason.

As for bots, any activity that is boring and monotonous, and which requires no thought or creativity can and will be botted. This goes for mining, ratting, missions, and Jita 0.01 isk undercutting market PvP. Bots are a symptom of a bad game with boring gameplay. People complain about CCP not banning bots, instead you should complain about the gameplay, and make gameplay that requires human thought and creativity to play, then the bots will go away on their own.

Out of interest does anyone know of any bots that can do probing? If not then that's a step in the right direction.


I was going to like you post till I finished reading it.

Every single online game has bots, bar none.


So, are you saying that because other MMOs have bots that we should just accept our boring repetitive gameplay and the bots that come with it? If so your opinion is invalid.


I am clearly saying your conclusion that "Bots are a symptom of a bad game with boring gameplay" would also mean that every single MMO is a bad game with boring gameplay.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#102 - 2012-02-15 20:56:51 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
snip


Ok, now you have been mixing up my points that were quoted by Tippia with his points, that were meant to refute mine.

As far as my points are concerned:

- I am an industrialist myself, I do invention, manufacturing and trading, and yes, I like the concept of economic warfare and completely dominating and cornering a specific market. Good stuff.

- Remove R/D Agents for all I care. I do inventions a lot, and there is no possible way to create all those datacores myself, so I am used to buying them of the markets already.

- I just recently met what I would call "hardcore miners". A whole bunch of them, people that I have never encountered before in Eve. People that multibox with 9 accounts, mining veldspar in highsec while being afk and playing Skyrim or WoW. This sounds like a cliche, but they exist. I have nothing personal against those guys, they are well mannered and polite people.
But in my understanding they do not play the game (Eve, I am talking about Eve) . Playing Skyrim or WoW is NOT playing Eve online. They do not deserve to be protected from ganks. You want to achieve something in a game? Then play it.
But expecting to be good in a game that you do not actively play is just all kinds of wrong.


I agree completely, sorry for the all inclusive quote. it was more a reaction to Tippia who usually does not resort to the sort of behavior that she/he has expressed by calling miners worthless people. sorry again.
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#103 - 2012-02-15 21:03:15 UTC
Leeroy McJenkins wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
lol i find it ironic that you are calling me a pubbie and telling me to go out to Null where I do play (showing you don't know squat about me just because i occasionally like to mine) when YOU are in a huge nullsec alliance with SOV hanging out in high sec, probably more than I do infact. just because you are in Goons doesn't make you leet bud. i actually fly in YOUR SPACE idiot lmao


This appears to be working out extremely well for you, pubbie.


yah and? so i lose some recons? big woop, you just proved my point that I fly in your space. Sorry that I am not a neckbeard KB whore? and sorry that i don't have 1000+ SOV holding alliance? and who doesn't lose a ship now and again in EC? it's bubbled excessively nearly 24/7.

Doesn't stop me from flying in your space when i feel like it. it was a response to being told to fly in 0.0 when i do that already. so thanks for proving my point. yah my KB sucks because i fly solo and has no friends. you going to beat me up on that now too? get a life dude
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#104 - 2012-02-15 21:16:22 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
arcca jeth wrote:


yah and? so i lose some recons? big woop, you just proved my point that I fly in your space. Sorry that I am not a neckbeard KB *****? and sorry that i don't have 1000+ SOV holding alliance? and who doesn't lose a ship now and again in EC? it's bubbled excessively nearly 24/7.

Doesn't stop me from flying in your space when i feel like it. it was a response to being told to fly in 0.0 when i do that already. so thanks for proving my point. yah my KB sucks because i fly solo and has no friends. you going to beat me up on that now too? get a life dude


Flying around in someones back yard is not something special although I would hardly call EC the heart of our space.

Oh wait half of your kills is you bombing yourselfLol
Razzor Death
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2012-02-15 21:30:56 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
Doesn't stop me from flying in your space when i feel like it. it was a response to being told to fly in 0.0 when i do that already. so thanks for proving my point. yah my KB sucks because i fly solo and has no friends. you going to beat me up on that now too? get a life dude


for 500mill I would be happy to call you a friend pal
Khan Farshatok
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#106 - 2012-02-15 21:31:28 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
lol i find it ironic that you are calling me a pubbie and telling me to go out to Null where I do play (showing you don't know squat about me just because i occasionally like to mine) when YOU are in a huge nullsec alliance with SOV hanging out in high sec, probably more than I do infact. just because you are in Goons doesn't make you leet bud. i actually fly in YOUR SPACE idiot lmao



would love to see you in MY space. :D
Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#107 - 2012-02-15 21:51:36 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Jafit wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Jafit wrote:
It's interesting how Moon mining and PI are other forms of resource gathering in this game introduced since belt mining, and they're passive in nature rather than requiring players to sit in a ship and shoot at something. I like to think that this is because CCP realised how bad mining gameplay is, but that probably isn't the reason.

As for bots, any activity that is boring and monotonous, and which requires no thought or creativity can and will be botted. This goes for mining, ratting, missions, and Jita 0.01 isk undercutting market PvP. Bots are a symptom of a bad game with boring gameplay. People complain about CCP not banning bots, instead you should complain about the gameplay, and make gameplay that requires human thought and creativity to play, then the bots will go away on their own.

Out of interest does anyone know of any bots that can do probing? If not then that's a step in the right direction.


I was going to like you post till I finished reading it.

Every single online game has bots, bar none.


So, are you saying that because other MMOs have bots that we should just accept our boring repetitive gameplay and the bots that come with it? If so your opinion is invalid.


I am clearly saying your conclusion that "Bots are a symptom of a bad game with boring gameplay" would also mean that every single MMO is a bad game with boring gameplay.


Have you ever played an MMO before?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#108 - 2012-02-15 21:52:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Quote:
What tools does EvE give to counter / fight against this potentially (they have not confirmed or denied!) strong and continued initiative?


1: Directional Scanner with a range sufficient for even the slowest miner to warp out of a belt before a hostile arrives.
2: The tools to organize/communicate with others.
3: Warp Core stabilizers, in case someone is stupid enough to scram you with a cloaking ship.
4: The ability to set standings.
5: The ability to create or join intel channels that report the identity and location of hostiles.


Combine this with the brain you already possess and it's ability to pay attention, read, type, speak, recognize individuals/corps/alliances/standings, and generally make sure you aren't there when the hostile arrives.

This is your goal, this is your PVP specialization (evasion) in this PVP centric game, this is the element of danger that keeps you from quitting out of sheer boredom.... whether you want to admit it or not, this is your truth.

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SkiD-MaRk
Wambulance
#109 - 2012-02-15 21:55:11 UTC
Khan Farshatok wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Remember about it when you will be voitng four "your" CSM candidate


yes remember, VOTE MITTANI CSM!!



Hell ya!
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#110 - 2012-02-15 21:59:11 UTC
lol where someone loses a ship doesn't mean they are their all the time. have some common sense. I know your space, I used to be in TEST and flew out of VFK for awhile. I will not be paying 500M to be scammed. I am a 74M sp 6 year pilot who can fly all cap ships. YOU should be PAYING ME to join lol
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#111 - 2012-02-15 22:00:25 UTC
Khan Farshatok wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
lol i find it ironic that you are calling me a pubbie and telling me to go out to Null where I do play (showing you don't know squat about me just because i occasionally like to mine) when YOU are in a huge nullsec alliance with SOV hanging out in high sec, probably more than I do infact. just because you are in Goons doesn't make you leet bud. i actually fly in YOUR SPACE idiot lmao



would love to see you in MY space. :D


you wouldnt see me but in local, but rest assured I would be scanning down your assets if I was hired to Blink
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#112 - 2012-02-15 22:02:08 UTC
BTW care to buy the location of a POS housing an enemy titan 7 jumps from VFK?
smushsmush
Global Gang Bangers
#113 - 2012-02-15 22:08:37 UTC
Every time a nub's mack die's a Bat gets his wings! Pirate i come for your tears gypsy!! you pubbies says the best thnigs. keep trying to justify your tears with what you consider valid claims. learn how to play don't be lazy. think outside the box that you live in or should i say ice field.




you mad bots????
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#114 - 2012-02-15 22:10:14 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
arcca jeth wrote:
lol where someone loses a ship doesn't mean they are their all the time. have some common sense. I know your space, I used to be in TEST and flew out of VFK for awhile. I will not be paying 500M to be scammed. I am a 74M sp 6 year pilot who can fly all cap ships. YOU should be PAYING ME to join lol



Just when I think you cannot sink any lower you whip out a shovel and dig down a little bit more!
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#115 - 2012-02-15 22:12:03 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
lol where someone loses a ship doesn't mean they are their all the time. have some common sense. I know your space, I used to be in TEST and flew out of VFK for awhile. I will not be paying 500M to be scammed. I am a 74M sp 6 year pilot who can fly all cap ships. YOU should be PAYING ME to join lol



Just when I think you cannot sink any lower you whip out a shovel and big down a little bit more!


lol just having fun
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#116 - 2012-02-15 22:23:45 UTC
Tippia wrote:
stuff that i expected


my bad, but i am glad you came and dissected my response and set straight my misinterpretation of the thread, no sarcasm intended.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#117 - 2012-02-15 22:25:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
arcca jeth wrote:
lol just having fun


Pubbies gonna Pub.

After a brief KB review, you don't fly in our space, you die in our space, usually by your own doing.
Khan Farshatok
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#118 - 2012-02-15 22:52:50 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
lol where someone loses a ship doesn't mean they are their all the time. have some common sense. I know your space, I used to be in TEST and flew out of VFK for awhile. I will not be paying 500M to be scammed. I am a 74M sp 6 year pilot who can fly all cap ships. YOU should be PAYING ME to join lol



lololololol scrub

this char, IE i have many, is 96mil sp. and the best part is i actually have pvp skills. PROOF
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#119 - 2012-02-15 23:04:37 UTC
Xolve wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
lol just having fun


Pubbies gonna Pub.

After a brief KB review, you don't fly in our space, you die in our space, usually by your own doing.


usually? you mean ...once? lol and yes i know, that was hilarious and i was bored. i expected to die. I had been providing recon on EC-Torrinos gate for a few hours and completed my task. So i went kamikaze and exploded hilariously. what i found funny at the time, you are trying to troll with, which i find equally hilarious.

I don't care about my KB. all these goons responding because some goon told me to fly in 0.0, (which i do). then a goon then posts my horribad KB which proves i fly/die in 0.0, yes there are poostains on this chars underwear. you think this is my only pilot? I do recall mittens commenting once in a thread that KB's are not a reliable source of information. You should learn from him.

why are you wasting your time replying to little ole me? i'm a nobody to you
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#120 - 2012-02-15 23:05:53 UTC  |  Edited by: arcca jeth
Khan Farshatok wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
lol where someone loses a ship doesn't mean they are their all the time. have some common sense. I know your space, I used to be in TEST and flew out of VFK for awhile. I will not be paying 500M to be scammed. I am a 74M sp 6 year pilot who can fly all cap ships. YOU should be PAYING ME to join lol



lololololol scrub

this char, IE i have many, is 96mil sp. and the best part is i actually have pvp skills. PROOF


i don't recall anywhere where i claimed to be good at PVP, good lord you all are idiots aren't you?

you are trying to prove something? to who? me? gaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha