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Covert Ops Exhumer
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Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#1 - 2012-02-15 01:58:17 UTC
DO IT YOU WON'T

No but really wouldn't it be awesome if we had a Procurer that could fit a Covert Ops cloak? Maybe then people would use it more than never. Not to mention it would make the whole profession more fun and risky :D

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2012-02-15 02:01:51 UTC
It would still be a Procurer so it would still suck.



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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#3 - 2012-02-15 02:04:19 UTC
What the hell is a procurer?
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#4 - 2012-02-15 02:05:21 UTC
The stupidest ship in the entire game.

A frozen corpse could mine better than a procurer

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#5 - 2012-02-15 02:23:49 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
What the hell is a procurer?


A cheaper variant of the also useless Skiff. With its +2 to warp strength and Catalyst like tank with a slight sig rad penalty(33% more) add in the slightly slower than a Belliclose speed, it's sure to be over confident and die in a fire every time.
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#6 - 2012-02-15 02:25:08 UTC
Only if the asteroids locked up the ship so it cant cloak.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2012-02-15 03:20:40 UTC
Features & Ideas >>>

At first I was like, "Interesting."

Then I was like, Procurer has the agility of a potato and the tank of a wet sandwich.

Sequence of events: covops proc is happily mining when suicide ganker comes into belt. Alert proc pilot cloaks and aligns to station. Ganker double-clicks in space and MWDs in the general direction of the proc's last location. On the way he deploys a small fleet of cheap T1 drones to help with the decloak. 5 seconds later, he decloaks the miner. 2 seconds later he points him. I salvo later it dies horribly, and drops better loot.

Covert Ops Miner, op fail.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#8 - 2012-02-15 03:51:51 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
Features & Ideas >>>

At first I was like, "Interesting."

Then I was like, Procurer has the agility of a potato and the tank of a wet sandwich.

Sequence of events: covops proc is happily mining when suicide ganker comes into belt. Alert proc pilot cloaks and aligns to station. Ganker double-clicks in space and MWDs in the general direction of the proc's last location. On the way he deploys a small fleet of cheap T1 drones to help with the decloak. 5 seconds later, he decloaks the miner. 2 seconds later he points him. I salvo later it dies horribly, and drops better loot.

Covert Ops Miner, op fail.



Maybe so in high sec but what about null? Pilot enters system, alert proc pilot cloaks and successfully locks down entire system while afk.

Procurers: secretely stealing your ores one cloak at a time.

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Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#9 - 2012-02-15 04:57:26 UTC
I would prefer a Q-Ship

T'would make high sec mining/gank entanglements much more interesting.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#10 - 2012-02-15 06:27:41 UTC
Renturu wrote:
I would prefer a Q-Ship

T'would make high sec mining/gank entanglements much more interesting.

Qs would be epic to be honest, which is why itll never happen.Sad



As for the OP.... LAWL... interesting concept though and would make deep space or ninja mining interesting. But not a procurer...its a ship you SKIP in your skill training plan for the better ones that you can use a few hours later and I imagine itll stay that way forever.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-15 06:56:16 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
Features & Ideas >>>

At first I was like, "Interesting."

Then I was like, Procurer has the agility of a potato and the tank of a wet sandwich.

Sequence of events: covops proc is happily mining when suicide ganker comes into belt. Alert proc pilot cloaks and aligns to station. Ganker double-clicks in space and MWDs in the general direction of the proc's last location. On the way he deploys a small fleet of cheap T1 drones to help with the decloak. 5 seconds later, he decloaks the miner. 2 seconds later he points him. I salvo later it dies horribly, and drops better loot.

Covert Ops Miner, op fail.


Wait, what?

You sure make a lot of assumptions, how do you know that an "alert" procurer pilot wouldn't already be aligned to a safe travelling as slowly as possible (to stay aligned and in range of their target).

Also, how do you know that the "alert" procurer pilot doesn't also fit for tank or fit an MWD for "teh getaway"?

Another thing, I can't tell you how many times I have evaded trawlers with their clouds of drones (with a T1 cloak no less), you just need to remain calm and in control.

You can't always assume everyone is a sheep doing everything the same way as everyone else. Not everyone fits for yield or capacity, hell, I NEARLY ALWAYS slap a trimark and a low-friction nozzle rig on my exhumers....

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Captain Torgo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-02-15 11:39:18 UTC
I already fit a prototype cloak onto my hulk along with two strip miners. I like to mine in lowsec so whenever someone jumps in local I simply cloak up. I never sit at the Warp To Zero warp in point at belts either so getting decloaked via proximity never happens.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-15 11:50:40 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Renturu wrote:
I would prefer a Q-Ship

T'would make high sec mining/gank entanglements much more interesting.

Qs would be epic to be honest, which is why itll never happen.Sad


Sweet jesus, a freighter with dreadnought guns fitted...

"Give us 300mil or we blow your freighter ololo!1!!"
*30 seconds later*
"OMFG I'LL GIVE YOU 300MIL JUST STOP FIRING AT ME!!!!!"

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#14 - 2012-02-15 17:00:08 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:

*30 seconds later*
"OMFG I'LL GIVE YOU 300MIL JUST STOP FIRING AT ME!!!!!"


30 seconds? You have obviously never been hot-dropped and sieged by a dreadnaught...
Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-02-15 17:07:29 UTC
Captain Torgo wrote:
I already fit a prototype cloak onto my hulk along with two strip miners. I like to mine in lowsec so whenever someone jumps in local I simply cloak up. I never sit at the Warp To Zero warp in point at belts either so getting decloaked via proximity never happens.


shush man... we don't need this kind of thoughtfulness on these forums.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#16 - 2012-02-15 17:09:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
No no no no....

How to fix exhumers:
More armor or shields.
Have enough slots/grid/cpu/cap to support Q-Ship fits.
Replace cargo bay with ore bay instead.
Shrink cargo bay to only allow some changes of crystals and to the point idiot pilots stop fitting cargo expanders.
While we at it fit a high utility slot so they shove on a probe launcher or something not so innocent.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#17 - 2012-02-15 17:10:38 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Renturu wrote:
I would prefer a Q-Ship

T'would make high sec mining/gank entanglements much more interesting.

Qs would be epic to be honest, which is why itll never happen.Sad


Sweet jesus, a freighter with dreadnought guns fitted...

"Give us 300mil or we blow your freighter ololo!1!!"
*30 seconds later*
"OMFG I'LL GIVE YOU 300MIL JUST STOP FIRING AT ME!!!!!"


Titan tracking guns :P

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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2012-02-15 17:12:55 UTC  |  Edited by: highonpop
I can understand the WANT for a cloaky mining barge, being able to avoid pirates and all that.

But from a practicality perspective, why would you use that over something else?

1 - You lose a high slot that could fit another strip
2 - You wouldnt be able to cloak half the time anyway from either being too close to a roid without realizing it, or being targeted by rats.
3 - The only place this would be necessary is in LS or 0.0. If you are mining in a LS belt, you deserve to die. If you are in 0.0, you should be keeping a vigilant eye on local anyway, and warping out upon a local spike, and NOT sitting in the top belt.
4 - If you are cloaked, you cant do anything (ie. mine...)

just those 4 points, IMO, render a cloaky barge idea DOA

FC, what do?
Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-02-15 17:32:36 UTC
highonpop wrote:
I can understand the WANT for a cloaky mining barge, being able to avoid pirates and all that.

But from a practicality perspective, why would you use that over something else?

1 - You lose a high slot that could fit another strip
2 - You wouldnt be able to cloak half the time anyway from either being too close to a roid without realizing it, or being targeted by rats.
3 - The only place this would be necessary is in LS or 0.0. If you are mining in a LS belt, you deserve to die. If you are in 0.0, you should be keeping a vigilant eye on local anyway, and warping out upon a local spike, and NOT sitting in the top belt.
4 - If you are cloaked, you cant do anything (ie. mine...)

just those 4 points, IMO, render a cloaky barge idea DOA


Please explain

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#20 - 2012-02-15 17:54:02 UTC
Elessa Enaka wrote:
highonpop wrote:
I can understand the WANT for a cloaky mining barge, being able to avoid pirates and all that.

But from a practicality perspective, why would you use that over something else?

1 - You lose a high slot that could fit another strip
2 - You wouldnt be able to cloak half the time anyway from either being too close to a roid without realizing it, or being targeted by rats.
3 - The only place this would be necessary is in LS or 0.0. If you are mining in a LS belt, you deserve to die. If you are in 0.0, you should be keeping a vigilant eye on local anyway, and warping out upon a local spike, and NOT sitting in the top belt.
4 - If you are cloaked, you cant do anything (ie. mine...)

just those 4 points, IMO, render a cloaky barge idea DOA


Please explain
I ran his reply through the short version TL:DR creator and it gave me the following answer.

No.

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