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New Dev Blog: Your Client, Made Gooder

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Elvis Preslie
NRDS Securities
Apocalypse Now.
#121 - 2012-02-15 11:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Elvis Preslie
Jack Paladin wrote:
First

And Roll on CCP! <3


Are you kidding me? actually you are KID ing; only a damn kid would rush to say "first" in a thread. Does the fact you was first make up for your small member between your legs or your lack of a life?

If it meant anything at all I could say I was first to open a new page in the thread, ******.

stop spamming the threads; use them for PRODUCTIVITY, like fixing the damn **** you pay for.

And btw, this message was productive, before you say something childish back to me, because its telling you to productively stfu.

GKFC wrote:
In this screenshot in the devblog:

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/3122/3417/your_client_made_gooder_windowsset_5.png

What happens if you minimise all those windows with this patch? Will the Neocom have an aneurysm?

Because currently having everything minimise to the Neocom can be a pain...


yeah, ive mentioned this to ccp in the ideas and features forum; i told them to make it act like windows7 taskbar and to fix the lame groups feature. You can create groups but you cant put anything you want in the groups. I have yet to right click on a neocom entry to get "move to group" as an option.

If you want to know why ccp sucks at programming, just look at the title of this thread.........gooder? this is the people we pay money to make crap, ok.
Spugg Galdon
Last Rites.
#122 - 2012-02-15 12:15:46 UTC
I don't think Elvis Preslie got a Valentines card this year.

Are you an unhappy little boy Elvis?
Kimbeau Surveryor
Stapeley House
#123 - 2012-02-15 12:47:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Kimbeau Surveryor
Ranger 1 wrote:
This may not be in your area to look at, but I know a lot of people who would cry tears of joy for a simplified mechanic to correctly set up one's overview.

Obviously people eventually figure out (or are shown) one that works for sorting hostiles, etc in a manner that works well for what they are trying to do and where they are flying... but it's a pain if you ever have to set them up again (or learn how to do it to begin with).

Some may say this isn't necessary, but I believe a surprisingly large number of people turn away from PVP simply because they are embarrassed that they can't figure it out.

Agreed. Muchly. I've thought for a long time that it would be great to have individual filters xml loadable. For example, have a directory into which [name].xml files could be dropped, and they appear in your "Load overview settings" list. Optionally these files could contain column info, bracket settings and/or tab name. Such files could easiliy be distributed, and used without screwing up all your existing tabs.

The file/directory paradigm is well understood, and would be far easier to understand than the existing arcane way of doing things.

Oh, and... Awsome Update! Much love to OP.

[And what clown thought that deleting all my input with a helpful "html not allowed" error just because I put a greater-than character in it was good plan? Converting to to ampersand gt colon too hard???]
Bent Barrel
#124 - 2012-02-15 12:53:29 UTC
Can you PLEASE test it on Linux/Wine ? This seems like a change that can either boost our performance (noticably AMD cards under linux have problems with text/brackets in EVE) or it can make the game unplayable :)

I hope for the first to be true.
Bent Barrel
#125 - 2012-02-15 12:55:21 UTC
Kimbeau Surveryor wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
This may not be in your area to look at, but I know a lot of people who would cry tears of joy for a simplified mechanic to correctly set up one's overview.

Obviously people eventually figure out (or are shown) one that works for sorting hostiles, etc in a manner that works well for what they are trying to do and where they are flying... but it's a pain if you ever have to set them up again (or learn how to do it to begin with).

Some may say this isn't necessary, but I believe a surprisingly large number of people turn away from PVP simply because they are embarrassed that they can't figure it out.

Agreed. Muchly. I've thought for a long time that it would be great to have individual filters xml loadable. For example, have a directory into which [name].xml files could be dropped, and they appear in your "Load overview settings" list. Optionally these files could contain column info, bracket settings and/or tab name. Such files could easiliy be distributed, and used without screwing up all your existing tabs.

The file/directory paradigm is well understood, and would be far easier to understand than the existing arcane way of doing things.

Oh, and... Awsome Update! Much love to OP.

[And what clown thought that deleting all my input with a helpful "html not allowed" error just because I put a greater-than character in it was good plan? Converting to to ampersand gt colon too hard???]


THIS PLEASE
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#126 - 2012-02-15 13:01:08 UTC
CCP Veritas wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Whats the issue with FPS drop and feeze when warping away from mining belts and fleet fights. Its up to twice per warp now.

There's a lot of setup and tear-down when new items enter/exit the grid. It's on the list to hammer at.


By chance, did you fix bracket profiles resetting on a session change?

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Bent Barrel
#127 - 2012-02-15 13:02:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Bent Barrel
dblpost
paik
H A V O C
Fraternity.
#128 - 2012-02-15 14:32:42 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
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equincu ocha
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#129 - 2012-02-15 15:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: equincu ocha
Good work on the overview, but to make it even better you could make us pirates and outlaws flashy red again.Everyone still calls us flashy red anyway, even people that weren't around before you nerfed us. I don't even know why we were nerfed in the first place.

Baby seal walked into a club

Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
#130 - 2012-02-15 18:06:47 UTC
The freeze-on-hover overview thing is going to be terribly annoying. The way it works right now is perfect - why change it? You still need to press ctrl (and click) to actually lock a target, so it doesn't make locking the target easier. Will CCP ever hire a competent UI designer? Mouse-over should never trigger any significant actions (the mouse-over drop-down menus on the website are terrible too, by the way).

It will only confuse people who don't know about this "feature" and force people who do to always remember to move their mouse away from the overview if they want the most-current sorting (which is often by distance, when it's extremely important to know quickly that targets are landing/approaching close to you).
Willl Adama
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#131 - 2012-02-15 19:32:06 UTC
This is ******* great guys, srsly good job

Hi

Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
#132 - 2012-02-15 20:12:51 UTC
equincu ocha wrote:
Good work on the overview, but to make it even better you could make us pirates and outlaws flashy red again.Everyone still calls us flashy red anyway, even people that weren't around before you nerfed us. I don't even know why we were nerfed in the first place.


Because you are supposed to be black. Maybe with a skull 'n bones if you feel glamorous, not red.


equincu ocha wrote:
Baby seal walked into a club


^^^^ +1

"It is when I think about meaning that I lose what I meant to say."     -Swooshie

Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
#133 - 2012-02-15 20:17:46 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:
The freeze-on-hover overview thing is going to be terribly annoying. The way it works right now is perfect - why change it? You still need to press ctrl (and click) to actually lock a target, so it doesn't make locking the target easier. Will CCP ever hire a competent UI designer? Mouse-over should never trigger any significant actions (the mouse-over drop-down menus on the website are terrible too, by the way).

It will only confuse people who don't know about this "feature" and force people who do to always remember to move their mouse away from the overview if they want the most-current sorting (which is often by distance, when it's extremely important to know quickly that targets are landing/approaching close to you).


Looks to me like you are in a minority there, Most seem to like the change, might want to give it a chance?
Either way, you'll survive, sweetheart.

"It is when I think about meaning that I lose what I meant to say."     -Swooshie

equincu ocha
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#134 - 2012-02-15 20:41:44 UTC
Swooshie wrote:


Because you are supposed to be black. Maybe with a skull 'n bones if you feel glamorous, not red.

I like that idea too, flashy black with skull 'n bones on it, or just flashy black until you get to -10, then you get the skull 'n bones.

Baby seal walked into a club

Elyon Itari
Voyagers
#135 - 2012-02-15 22:24:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Elyon Itari
Elvis Preslie wrote:
yeah, ive mentioned this to ccp in the ideas and features forum; i told them to make it act like windows7 taskbar and to fix the lame groups feature. You can create groups but you cant put anything you want in the groups. I have yet to right click on a neocom entry to get "move to group" as an option.
Maybe try creating a group, and then dragging any item to the group (you'll know you've succeeded when you see a white square around the group icon).

Et voilà. It seems the only actual point from your post is now resolved.
Megarom
Shiva
Northern Coalition.
#136 - 2012-02-15 23:10:07 UTC
I'm totally reserving CCP Psyduck!

Just in case I somehow end up needing a CCP name and somepoint of my life.
Sturmwolke
#137 - 2012-02-16 02:26:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Sturmwolke
Now all these fixes, you wouldn't be (metaphorically) sweeping the floor clean and lifting the under carpet to hide the dust would you? Smile
Take a look at the EVE client's local caching, please tell me if you've discovered an automated way to limit the diskpace used.

Manual or user written scripts don't apply.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#138 - 2012-02-16 12:21:26 UTC
equincu ocha wrote:
Good work on the overview, but to make it even better you could make us pirates and outlaws flashy red again.Everyone still calls us flashy red anyway, even people that weren't around before you nerfed us. I don't even know why we were nerfed in the first place.

All the cool kids have you flashy orange

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Dancul1001
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#139 - 2012-02-16 16:12:54 UTC
I can understand the new changes to "enhance" the game as ccp would put it. But the overview freezing when ever your mouse hovers over it is stupid IMO. I can understand if people like it but please at least give me an option to turn it off cause i think it is dumb as ****.
Freelancer'Spb
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#140 - 2012-02-16 17:45:42 UTC
Good job CCP! I don't play much last months, but such blogs warms up my interest and desire to go back in game.
All but this:
Quote:
we made one super tiny functional change which you’ll probably notice and hopefully like – the sorting of the overview will lock when you hover over it.

It could be a good change for pve, and blobfests, but overall that's really bad idea. This simply reverse all your job on overview lag fighting(now it'll be a feature lol)Attention

And just little example for those who don't understand: In pvp sorting by distance is default in most cases(exept blobfests), so while you're picking your targets you'll suddenly realise with this "new uper tiny functional change" that you're already webbed and scrambled by someone who was behind all the targets just a moment before.
So please: make this feature optional, or automatically disabled with sorting by distance.

P.S. On the other hand - maybe more people would learn how to orient in space without overview, it's really good skill for pvp.