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Seeking advice regarding private owned Titan
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Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#41 - 2012-02-15 19:05:02 UTC
Freddy Dreamer wrote:
Ryuce wrote:
If you choose to listen to the guys above me regarding BLOPS have a look at their bridge and jump range. These are quiet limited compared to titans and will from time to time become an issue.



yeah i expected that,btw what is the bridge range of a titan?


8.5ly compared to 4.5ly of a Black Ops BS. Plus any subcap can use it.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-02-15 19:37:11 UTC
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:
Freddy Dreamer wrote:
Ryuce wrote:
If you choose to listen to the guys above me regarding BLOPS have a look at their bridge and jump range. These are quiet limited compared to titans and will from time to time become an issue.



yeah i expected that,btw what is the bridge range of a titan?


8.5ly compared to 4.5ly of a Black Ops BS. Plus any subcap can use it.


In spite of which, in a solo situation the blops remains the best option by a long shot.


Consider the following:

Last time I checked (actually last time I know CCP published those figures) the Panther was the most efficient ship with regards to kills/loses. Across all categories.

Because Blops make excellent hunter killers.


With a Blops you won't need to worry about having to keep up some POS's (which can get old fast if you don't do anything with them) and you will have a lot more mobility than with a titan, however on the downside you are probably not going to have the right skills to use one effectively.


One added advantage of the blops is that it lets you assess the logistics and jump options available to caps without the need to actually use a cap (alright - blops is range challenged but you get the idea).

I say go for it... or end up as a titan killmail and then go for it Twisted
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#43 - 2012-02-15 20:34:51 UTC
Kush Monster wrote:
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
Monty Kvaran wrote:
Does that include T3 Cruisers? I've been wondering about that one...


If they have the Covops sub, yes.

The only thing T3s can't do is light the covert cyno.


o **** that's badass! hello blackops!


I second the POS fuel prediction. Have fun fueling all those poses just to play with your titan.


Lets not forget that Covops subbed T3's are extremely weak defensive and offensively.
supr3m3justic3
Perkone
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-02-16 20:32:48 UTC
Daemon Ceed wrote:
Kush Monster wrote:
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
Monty Kvaran wrote:
Does that include T3 Cruisers? I've been wondering about that one...


If they have the Covops sub, yes.

The only thing T3s can't do is light the covert cyno.


o **** that's badass! hello blackops!


I second the POS fuel prediction. Have fun fueling all those poses just to play with your titan.


Lets not forget that Covops subbed T3's are extremely weak defensive and offensively.


Are you trying to say, Titans have better Offensive Capabilities fighting anything sub Cap? Or are you trying to say you will die slower in a Titan?
Griznatch
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#45 - 2012-02-16 21:00:41 UTC
supr3m3justic3 wrote:
Daemon Ceed wrote:
Kush Monster wrote:
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
Monty Kvaran wrote:
Does that include T3 Cruisers? I've been wondering about that one...


If they have the Covops sub, yes.

The only thing T3s can't do is light the covert cyno.


o **** that's badass! hello blackops!


I second the POS fuel prediction. Have fun fueling all those poses just to play with your titan.


Lets not forget that Covops subbed T3's are extremely weak defensive and offensively.


Are you trying to say, Titans have better Offensive Capabilities fighting anything sub Cap? Or are you trying to say you will die slower in a Titan?



Whats hes saying is that even though a covops t3 can bridge on a blackops ship, its probably not a good idea because a covops t3 isnt really any better than a recon, and quite a bit more expensive to lose.

I used to have a clever sig but I lost it.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-02-17 07:13:23 UTC
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
that's because brack region can only lose erebuses, not kill them Cool


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PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-02-17 08:26:08 UTC
Honestly I'd forgo the POS entirely. Once someone knows you're their, you're pretty much screwed.

Here's what I'd do if I were deadest on having a personal titan.

1) Find a few quiet areas of lowsec via dotlan, and I mean dead quiet. No jumps for at least 5-6 hours consistently during peak hours day to day. Believe it or not, there are actually plenty of lowsec systems that meet this criteria.

2) Fit a cloak on your titan.

3) Make several deep safes in all of the systems that you found in (1).

4) When NO ONE is in said system AND surrounding systems, light a cyno at a deep safe and warp to another deep safe and cloak up the titan.

5) when you want to use it, bridge out from the deep safe when no one is in system. If someone passes through the system, they wont be able to see your titan while your bridging unless they take combat probes out since you're at a deep safe.
Steve Celeste
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-02-17 08:38:42 UTC
You can also jump it around 5 minutes before downtime for extra safety.

Even if you get aggro'd or tackled, the CCP lunchbreak will save your ship.
Freddy Dreamer
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-02-17 15:10:29 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly I'd forgo the POS entirely. Once someone knows you're their, you're pretty much screwed.

Here's what I'd do if I were deadest on having a personal titan.

1) Find a few quiet areas of lowsec via dotlan, and I mean dead quiet. No jumps for at least 5-6 hours consistently during peak hours day to day. Believe it or not, there are actually plenty of lowsec systems that meet this criteria.

2) Fit a cloak on your titan.

3) Make several deep safes in all of the systems that you found in (1).

4) When NO ONE is in said system AND surrounding systems, light a cyno at a deep safe and warp to another deep safe and cloak up the titan.

5) when you want to use it, bridge out from the deep safe when no one is in system. If someone passes through the system, they wont be able to see your titan while your bridging unless they take combat probes out since you're at a deep safe.



oh crap lol why didnt i think of this Big smile

thanks to you i might just really carry on with the plan. is the refueling on the titan the same as pos refueling?What?
Freddy Dreamer
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-02-18 18:32:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Freddy Dreamer
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly I'd forgo the POS entirely. Once someone knows you're their, you're pretty much screwed.

Here's what I'd do if I were deadest on having a personal titan.

1) Find a few quiet areas of lowsec via dotlan, and I mean dead quiet. No jumps for at least 5-6 hours consistently during peak hours day to day. Believe it or not, there are actually plenty of lowsec systems that meet this criteria.

2) Fit a cloak on your titan.

3) Make several deep safes in all of the systems that you found in (1).

4) When NO ONE is in said system AND surrounding systems, light a cyno at a deep safe and warp to another deep safe and cloak up the titan.

5) when you want to use it, bridge out from the deep safe when no one is in system. If someone passes through the system, they wont be able to see your titan while your bridging unless they take combat probes out since you're at a deep safe.



could you guys provide me with an optimal fit that will compliment the task above? isk is not an issue.
Katalci
Kismesis
#51 - 2012-02-19 05:09:19 UTC
Warp stabs, shield extenders, and a full rack of medium smartbombs except for the jump portal
The Vastator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-02-19 11:40:34 UTC
Dude, sell it already or join an alliance that can offer some form of protection ( not douchebags Roll)
Silas Shaw
Coffee Hub
#53 - 2012-02-19 18:00:51 UTC
OK. I know im gonna get trolled for this, and i dont exactly blame the trolls, but....

Looking at the risks you're taking, looking at the lengths to which you're willing to go... What class of ships are you going to be dropping? It may ALMOST be more efficient to hotdrop a combat fit Blops than to risk a titan like this. Besides, then you're using a covops ship to light your cynos, and you can go through highsec at a whim...

And with the cost of titan+character, how many combat fit Blops + Bridging Falcons can you buy?

Silas
Protaa
Constantine.
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
#54 - 2012-03-09 13:08:03 UTC
This thread is pure win
Gizan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-03-12 06:47:58 UTC
Lisan al-Gaib wrote:
They've made it so that when you cyno onto a POS now you always land at least 15km from the shield or something like that.
I guess you could cyno onto the pos, warp off, and then warp back, if you want to protect your cynoship.



ya your wrong. If you own the pos, you can cyno at the edge and land the same 5k from the cyno. If you do NOT own the pos you have a chance of landing 5+k form the cyno (usually 14k from the edge of pos shields)
Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#56 - 2012-03-12 10:04:36 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly I'd forgo the POS entirely. Once someone knows you're their, you're pretty much screwed.


3) Make several deep safes in all of the systems that you found in (1).

4) When NO ONE is in said system AND surrounding systems, light a cyno at a deep safe and warp to another deep safe and cloak up the titan.



You do know that there are no such things as deep safes anymore, right? CCP got rid of those awhile ago.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#57 - 2012-03-12 14:22:55 UTC
Daemon Ceed wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly I'd forgo the POS entirely. Once someone knows you're their, you're pretty much screwed.


3) Make several deep safes in all of the systems that you found in (1).

4) When NO ONE is in said system AND surrounding systems, light a cyno at a deep safe and warp to another deep safe and cloak up the titan.



You do know that there are no such things as deep safes anymore, right? CCP got rid of those awhile ago.



Deep safes are still possible.Just not as deep as before.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#58 - 2012-03-12 14:25:51 UTC
Deep safes are generally just taken to mean safes off scan from any celestials these days, terminology changes.

To the OP if you never screw up and take the right precautions you will never lose your Titan and your plan will work fine. However, for the :effort: and cost there are much, much easier ways to get similar amounts of entertainment. 99% of situations where you're bridging a solo ship onto a target you might as well just have had your alt in a falcon instead of a titan in terms of winning the fight (and you'll probably die less too).

Also, there will be that time when you're drunk pewing and accidentally bridge your Titan in and pass out on the keyboard and have to ragequit the next day, so that's another reason not to.
WARBRO
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#59 - 2012-03-12 15:25:48 UTC
Join a large alliance.
Buy Titan
Park at friendly pos
????
PROFIT!
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-03-12 16:14:13 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Daemon Ceed wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly I'd forgo the POS entirely. Once someone knows you're their, you're pretty much screwed.


3) Make several deep safes in all of the systems that you found in (1).

4) When NO ONE is in said system AND surrounding systems, light a cyno at a deep safe and warp to another deep safe and cloak up the titan.



You do know that there are no such things as deep safes anymore, right? CCP got rid of those awhile ago.


Here's how I would make a "deep" safe in npc null and lowsec.

Find large system. Find someone doing missions in said system, since missions (unlike plexes or anoms) can be god knows how far away from celestials (Especially L4 and L5 missions) and in random directions (including up/down). Warp between these locations and place bookmarks where you want em. Then warp between those bookmarks and repeat. Since missions can send you anywhere (e.g. 20 AU Above and 15 AU out from the farthest planet in a 250 AU system) you have quite a few options assuming you have the time to either
a) continuously run missions in said system
b) probe out someone doing (a).

In certain systems I have safes that are at least 50 AU away from any celestial, and any direct warp line between said celestials.

Now the only way someone will find you is with probes, which isn't a huge problem if you fit a cloak. Mind you, using a solo/personal titan w/o corp/alliance support is a ******* terrible idea, but it beats using a solo/personal titan from a pos.